Voyager, VX-351 and dot.com

Moogsound · Post by **Moogsound** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:04 am

Hi!

New member here.

My system is a Voyager(performer)1 Expander 351 and a 22 space dot.com:
Q104 MIDI Interface
Q105 Slew Limiter
Q106 3.Oscillator (VCO) w/CRS
Q108 2.Amplifier (VCA)
Q109 2.Envelope Generator
Q110 Noise Source
Q113 Mixer 8-Channel
Q116 Ring Modulator
Q117 Sample and Hold
Q118 Instrument Interface
Q124 Multiples
Q125 Signal Processor
Q130 Clipper, Rectifier
Q141 Oscillator Aid
Q150 Ladder Filter (VCF)

I would like to have some suggestion how to get the best out of my system by the use of the vx351. I have experimented a lot, but I find the expander sometime difficult to understand complete.
Any suggestions is welcome.

Kjell

EricK · Post by **EricK** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:07 am

Welcome to the forum!

Well the Expander contains all of the CV outs, of corse.

If you are using the Voyager as a controller then you can use the pitch to the Oscs, the envelope outputs to the appropriate places. THe Vx will allow certian setings on the Voyager to be externalized, like the keyboard voltages, filter and vol envelopes, LFO outs and things like that. Don't forget that the Voyager has all of those Juicy inputs as well.

WHat exactly is giving you the problem and what are you trying to accomplish? Unless it is the XYA outputs for the touchpad? THen the Attenuators and the multiples just like on the DOtcom.

I think your dotcom system could function wonderfully on its own too.

Please post some pics of your rig!

Eric

MarkM · Post by **MarkM** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:23 am

http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopi ... ght=dotcom

Perhaps this previous thread may answer some questions.

Moogsound · Post by **Moogsound** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:35 pm

EricK wrote:Welcome to the forum!

Well the Expander contains all of the CV outs, of corse.

If you are using the Voyager as a controller then you can use the pitch to the Oscs, the envelope outputs to the appropriate places. THe Vx will allow certian setings on the Voyager to be externalized, like the keyboard voltages, filter and vol envelopes, LFO outs and things like that. Don't forget that the Voyager has all of those Juicy inputs as well.

I think your dotcom system could function wonderfully on its own too.

Please post some pics of your rig!

Eric

Thanks for your feedback. I will try out your suggestions.
I,m agree the dotcom stays good on its own. I even have the beautiful dotcom midicontroller and a keyboardgarage for the cabinet. Pics will come. I,m not shure what I want-perhaps just learn a little bit more what can be done and not be done with this system.

Kjell

Moogsound · Post by **Moogsound** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:39 pm

MarkM wrote:http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopi ... ght=dotcom

Perhaps this previous thread may answer some questions.

Thanks for the link-It seems to be the kind of reply I need.

Kjell

analoghaze · Post by **analoghaze** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:22 pm

Welcome to the forum.

EricK · Post by **EricK** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:38 pm

Moogsound wrote:
EricK wrote:Welcome to the forum!

Well the Expander contains all of the CV outs, of corse.

If you are using the Voyager as a controller then you can use the pitch to the Oscs, the envelope outputs to the appropriate places. THe Vx will allow certian setings on the Voyager to be externalized, like the keyboard voltages, filter and vol envelopes, LFO outs and things like that. Don't forget that the Voyager has all of those Juicy inputs as well.

I think your dotcom system could function wonderfully on its own too.

Please post some pics of your rig!

Eric
Thanks for your feedback. I will try out your suggestions.
I,m agree the dotcom stays good on its own. I even have the beautiful dotcom midicontroller and a keyboardgarage for the cabinet. Pics will come. I,m not shure what I want-perhaps just learn a little bit more what can be done and not be done with this system.

Kjell

May I ask where you are from?

FIrst of all, you have some steep learning curves to tackle with just the Voyager. THen the dotcom system will provide many years of discovery.

Those two units combined have got to be absolutely fabulous!

Just don't forget about MIDI. One will control the other. THats an increadible system that you have there so hopefully you will find this forum and the synthesizers.com yahoo users group a home as you continue to develop your technique.

Eric

Moogsound · Post by **Moogsound** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:48 am

analoghaze wrote:Welcome to the forum.

Thank you!

Moogsound · Post by **Moogsound** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:59 am

EricK wrote:
Moogsound wrote:
EricK wrote:Welcome to the forum!

Well the Expander contains all of the CV outs, of corse.

If you are using the Voyager as a controller then you can use the pitch to the Oscs, the envelope outputs to the appropriate places. THe Vx will allow certian setings on the Voyager to be externalized, like the keyboard voltages, filter and vol envelopes, LFO outs and things like that. Don't forget that the Voyager has all of those Juicy inputs as well.

I think your dotcom system could function wonderfully on its own too.

Please post some pics of your rig!

Eric
Thanks for your feedback. I will try out your suggestions.
I,m agree the dotcom stays good on its own. I even have the beautiful dotcom midicontroller and a keyboardgarage for the cabinet. Pics will come. I,m not shure what I want-perhaps just learn a little bit more what can be done and not be done with this system.

Kjell
May I ask where you are from?

FIrst of all, you have some steep learning curves to tackle with just the Voyager. THen the dotcom system will provide many years of discovery.

Those two units combined have got to be absolutely fabulous!

Just don't forget about MIDI. One will control the other. THats an increadible system that you have there so hopefully you will find this forum and the synthesizers.com yahoo users group a home as you continue to develop your technique.

Eric

Thank you Eric.

Yes I think those synthesizers is a powerful duo. When I,m more familiar with the expander, the possibilitis are almost endless.
Even then its always a hunger to buy more modules...
I,m from Norway. If you like you can watch me on youtube with the dotcom and the Voyager:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ery0FsdK_Ko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J35fM1N ... re=related

Kjell

Voltor07 · Post by **Voltor07** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:04 am

Very nice indeed! Hang on...is there a way to get polyphony out of that rig? Someway to connect the Voyager to the modular for polyphony? That would be pretty cool. Impossible, without two keyboards, but cool!

Moogsound · Post by **Moogsound** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:19 am

Voltor07 wrote:Very nice indeed! Hang on...is there a way to get polyphony out of that rig? Someway to connect the Voyager to the modular for polyphony? That would be pretty cool. Impossible, without two keyboards, but cool!

Thanks.

Its possible to play duophonic with the dotcomcontroller-not exactly polyphony, but its a nice option to have.

Kjell

EricK · Post by **EricK** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:29 am

If a modular has a VCA per Osc (or a multi input vca or a big mixer going to the vca) then it will play as many provided that you are able to send many different pitch voltages. Just like making a polymoog out of a bunch of 921s or having a manual per voice.

You could control the dotcom with the voyager, setting the voyager for being the second note in the chain just like you would if you had 2 voyagers. THe dotcom woudl be the first voice.

Their controller is capable of duophony but its a split keyboard.

Eric

Voltor07 · Post by **Voltor07** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:14 pm

Thanks for that, EricK! I will have a polyphonic modular even if it kills me! I may need the 44-space system after all. Of course, I can always start out with an Astroturf-covered entry level system.

EricK · Post by **EricK** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:31 pm

You will need a keyboard that will send either midi or you will definately need to send an independant voltage to an oscillator for every voice you want.

I don't think youll need a VCA for every osc.