2nd Clue

[therie]

FINALLY
with the new style knobs

[OysterRock]

Uhhhhh...no. That is a USB MIDI controller shown at NAMM 2004. Please stop trying to spead misinformation.

[goldphinga]

what the hell is that thing. there is no way thats the new synth or ill eat my own head. It looks really shabby. What is it exactly? is that anything to do with moog music????

Thats most def not something moog would ever put out.

joker

[JSRockit]

10 days left.

[goldphinga]

alright i found the blurb on it. Its nothing to do with moog:

MIDIMax
I could never track this person down put he was leaving his Moog-like USB controller at booths like Arturia and Creamware. This is a killer looking controller and would be a perfect setup for anyone who has a Moog emulation soft-synth. We finally found a brochure and it looks like the thing sells for around 1,200 Euros –not cheap, but definitely cool.


1200 euros!!!!!!for a usb midi controller??????????

Absolutely not moog. you should be ashamed of posting something like that on here saying its the new synth.do you think we are that stupid that we'd believe a low stunt like that on sensitive synth nerds?

[electrical_engineer_gEEk]

chill out...stop acting like 'tards

[martin]

Haha, that thing looks funny! Like a Synth for Mr. Bean.

[MisterModular]

I really can't wait to see what this new Moog is. I'm tired of reading this thread (though I can't stop). Anyway, I have owned 2 Sources and I never had a problem with them. I never operate more than one knob at a time either and found it to be as easy to operate as my Minimoogs. The only reason I sold my last Source was to get the $500 down payment for my Signature Edition voyager.

[MC]

Dude, the source never failed. Did you even ever play one?

Dude, the Source did fail... at least inasmuch as it was intended as the successor to the Minimoog. You might take a look in yer Moog history book, if you weren't around then... the Source was intended as a :::ahem::: "modern" replacement for the Minimoog. It was a fad at that point to demonstrate the "futurism" of a synthesizer by removing all of those pesky knobs and giving the HIP NEW DIGITAL INTERFACE. Its sales didn't approach the Minimoog by ANY stretch of the imagination. Minimoog users were frustrated by the lack of control afforded by a single knob. I'm sure everyone felt like they were living in Star Wars with that nifty mylar interface, but those of you with Sources these days are not so happy with it, are you? ; )

The interface was not the reason the Source "failed". You neglect the fact that

a) At the time of the Source, the market for monophonic analog was drying up and Moog Music/Norlin were stuck in a rut. Polyphonics were the rage since 1977 and it took them until 1982 to release the Memorymoog (the Polymoog was not the polyphonic that customers wanted).

b) Three years after the Source was released, MIDI and Yamaha DX-7 killed the market for analogs

I was around during those days, I know synth history quite well.

Between 1981 and 1984, over 3,000 Sources were built. That's as good a production rate as the Minimoog.

[museslave]

The interface was not the reason the Source "failed". You neglect the fact that
a) At the time of the Source, the market for monophonic analog was drying up and Moog Music/Norlin were stuck in a rut.

I will concede the fact that monophonics were not as popular as they had been at the time of the release of the Source.
I'm not sure why everyone is so defensive of the Source. It's a nice synthesizer... I don't mean to impugn anyone's honor or synthesizer choice. I'm not telling you you're less of a person because you choose to purchase a Source.
What I am saying, have been saying, and will continue to say is this: single-knob-for-all-functions was a digital novelty and will not be a big selling point for future analog synths. We have plenty of digital synths that will work with one knob, or no knobs at all. In fact, if you don't care if there are any knobs on your synthesizer, there are plenty of softsynths for quite a bit less than modern analog synths.
If you're content with a single knob to control all functions... and the necessity of choosing a function and THEN being able to use the single knob for ONLY that function... what they heck do you need an analog synth for? Knobs are for more than doing a filter sweep... and I can't imagine how anyone can deny the interface-related limitation of having to choose a function and then use a single knob over the freedom of choosing any knob or combination of knobs at will.

b) Three years after the Source was released, MIDI and Yamaha DX-7 killed the market for analogs

At the risk of sounding nitpicky, I was around then, too... and I seem to remember Roland Juno 106s flying off the shelves in 1984/85... granted, they had DCOs, but they were primarily analog, sounded analog, and featured MIDI. Ooh, and they also had a monophonic mode. ; ) My first synthesizer, actually... although I have admit that for a very short time, I coveted the DX7 along with everyone else. : )

Between 1981 and 1984, over 3,000 Sources were built. That's as good a production rate as the Minimoog.

That is certainly more than I expected. Do you have the sales figures along with the units built?

Again... Sources are fine... a very nice analog monophonic. I'm sorry that my criticism of the single knob has offended so many people. I only hope that my frequent condemnation of the lameness of the Opus 3 and my unorthodox statements of the superiority of the Micromoog over the Rogue and even Prodigy won't generate so much irritation. ; )

Dear Moog... please give us a basic, less expensive monophonic... it sounds like that's what most people here want! (I only ask that it have more than one knob... ; )

[dulongsynth]

The new Moog Voyager SAILBOAT!! With an advanced, high-performance reverse-angle centerboard, you'll be making waves in no time! All analog, yet handles Floating Point operations with ease.



Wow, I haven't seen a molded shell that cool since the Sonic Six...

dulongsynth

[trip]

The new Moog Voyager SAILBOAT!! With an advanced, high-performance reverse-angle centerboard, you'll be making waves in no time! All analog, yet handles Floating Point operations with ease.

Haha, dude, that's bleeping funny.

About the source, still man, you can't judge the one-knob-interface without having tried it extensivly yourself. And I can tell you it works as good as any interface. Still hoping for a tripres + moog filter though. I don't care if it has one knob or 200.

[MarkM]

Dulongsynth, that is funny!

[THM]

The new Moog Voyager SAILBOAT!! With an advanced, high-performance reverse-angle centerboard, you'll be making waves in no time! All analog, yet handles Floating Point operations with ease.



Wow, I haven't seen a molded shell that cool since the Sonic Six...

dulongsynth

That's great !!!!

[museslave]

About the source, still man, you can't judge the one-knob-interface without having tried it extensivly yourself.

As I said, I have never tried a Source, but I have had extensive experience with the One Knob paradigm. (I owned a Kawai SX-210 for a time) It is very frustrating to want to jump from cutoff point to increasing PWM with the intermediary step of having to indicate PWM. In cases where multiple knob-twists must occur in very quick succession, it's impossible. And, as I keep pointing out... if you're the sort of person that jacks up the sustain/release and lets a note play while doing TWO HANDED KNOB TURNING.... well, you're out of luck!
I just figure that most people who are content with a single knob are not people who take advantage of the audio control multiple knobs provide... and that's fine!
Again... Source = Good. One knob (to control freaks like myself) = bad. : )
Mylar from 1981 = anxiety. ; )


I would also like to encourage Moog to put a "resonator" on any synth they make! Resonators are WONDERFUL effects! The MURF is a resonator! Yay resonators!!