MF-104SD

godzilla · Post by **godzilla** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:39 am

Why bot post some pictures?
and some sound files?

dealer · Post by **dealer** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:50 am

Jebus0000 wrote:how does the sound compare to the MF-104? Does the MF-104SD get that high pitched clock noise like the MF-104 on the longer settings?

what's the high-pitched clock sound you're describing? what do you mean?

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basscracker · Post by **basscracker** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:28 pm

Jebus0000 wrote:how does the sound compare to the MF-104? Does the MF-104SD get that high pitched clock noise like the MF-104 on the longer settings?

i set them both up around the same milliseconds IMO they sound very similar.build quality looks very similar as well.the SD is using MN3008's,i wonder if the 104Z will use MN3005?the clock noise i haven't really thought about yet.

Deathbycalculator · Post by **Deathbycalculator** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:37 pm

Just got my MF-104SD #009 yesterday and Damn!!!!! This thing is the Holy grail of delays. This thing sounds so sick!!! OK First off the Short setting is pretty clear in the bandwidth I've used it on Korg Ms-10, SK-1 and a epiphone Les paul elite plus. It sounds awesome on guitar and the drive is cranked to about 3/4 and output to 1/2 and it sounds totally clean. The short delay all the way down is like a bathtub reverb or some call it slap back but it sounds like a nice reverb to me. The long setting is muted for sure and the vco clock is audible around the 1400ms range and up just like the MF-104 welll i mean in the long setting. The Chips are MN3008 and as far as i know the 104-Z will used the same chips. I also learn that the 104-Z will be a run of a 1000 like the mf-104. I talked to a moog sales person about a month ago and I was told after I found Bob past (God rest his soul) that their goal was 1000 for the Z. Also that the SD has already shipped and were all gone, this a little more than a month ago. So If you can find a SD good luck. I guess 250 where made and 150 went straight to artist and a 100 of them leak out to some stores that sold out or have a few left. So If you can get one you a lucking one and I'm sure the Z will be just as sweet as the SD but missing that extra delay time, god I love this pedal.

godzilla · Post by **godzilla** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:20 am

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Deathbycalculator · Post by **Deathbycalculator** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:58 am

Ok if I'm reading this right It looks like the MN3008 has just a little better S/N ratio and a wider frequency responce than the MN3005, so if any thing the new MF-104's will have a little cleaner sound and wider bandwidth. Just a little but it's a difference. If any one can tell the difference who knows but the chips look pretty close to each other.

dealer · Post by **dealer** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:14 am

I got my SD last night. my god, the thing is amazing. far far far and away better than my MF-104. I'll report more after the weekend.

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dealer · Post by **dealer** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:07 pm

ok. have the SD in the rig now. very very impressed. I first took it and A/B'd it with the MF-104. I liked the SD better. the SD didn't sound as distorted/overdriven in the repeats. it's still the lo-fi analog sound, of course, but much clearer.

the long setting is a little less so, of course. but the fact that you can get 700 ms on the low setting makes it almost a moot point. man I love this thing.

sooooooo... everyone do yourselves a favor and GET ONE.

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OysterRock · Post by **OysterRock** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:25 pm

dealer wrote: sooooooo... everyone do yourselves a favor and GET ONE.

Bastard! Why must you torture me?!? I would if I could, but I'm broke!

Just blew all my money on an Avalon U5!

dealer · Post by **dealer** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:42 pm

MF104 and MF-104SD

OysterRock · Post by **OysterRock** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:48 pm

....you truely are an evil person...

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:43 am

Does the original sound warmer?

monads · Post by **monads** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:22 am

You think you're broke, I'm trying to buy this house in Covina (cali) and the damn price is $490k. Scarry when you're a first time buyer all alone, I can't decide to cancel the order for my MF-104SD and use the money to get a fridge or keep the SD and no fridge. I'll think I'll hold out, forget the fridge and get my SD

I'll be chewing on the sounds of my moog LSD, oops....SD for awhile.

Dannymon · Post by **Dannymon** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:30 pm

How much did you pay for the SD?

Deathbycalculator · Post by **Deathbycalculator** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:36 pm

The price was $749 , and the mf-104z is going for $689. But you get extra delay time and a collectable.