Hi,
really, I’m not sure the editor will have VST realtime capabilities through USB. Check what is available here in the forum about the editor, but don’t hold back just on the , the Sub 37 is amazing with or without editor/vst plugin.
All the best,
Greg
Given the mention of VST and a Voyager VST, I’m curious to know: are VST plugin’s an extreme rarity amongst hardware, analog synths?
Before I saw this post, I was under the impression that Elektron’s Overbridge is the only one doing it and doing it for the first time.
They seem to be a rarity but really shouldn’t be in this day and age. Some synths being released don’t even have proper midi control or automation in their quest to be ‘vintage’. Soundtower make ones for the DSI stuff but I’m not sure they’re any good/reliable from what I read. I know some third parties make them in ableton max4live for a couple of synths too.
You can find here http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23723 a software interface that optimizes the use of the Sub Phatty Editor with the Sub 37.
It wll give you the following possibilities:
Just a bump to this thread. I would really like to get the sub 37, but I would really, really love to remap the CV in functionality like you can on the Minitaur. If one could do this, I would go out and buy one as soon as my local shop opens on Monday…
Head on down to the shop … From the manual …
CV MAPPING (GLOBAL MENU 2.1)
The CV MAPPING submenu allows you to map the external PITCH CV, VOLUME CV and KB GATE inputs to various parameters and functions. The CV mapping of PITCH CV and VOLUME CV to a desired parameter allows you to connect a continuous controller pedal (with a 1/4” TRS plug) to one of the CV inputs and then directly control the mapped parameter. The KB GATE input is similar but uses a 1/4” TS footswitch and typically controls switch-based parameters.
Oh goodness.
BRB…
please include sync to for ableton and other daws, its like over bridge from elektron sweden.. I cant stand not being able to sync to ableton, cause I dont really know how lol
What do you want to sync to Ableton? If you press the Sync button on the Sub 37 the midi clock is synced with the DAW.
Here is a thread how to sync the Sub 37 with Ableton..
http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22244
Posted in gearslutz today (Sep 10) by Amos (in response to editor software):
Sorry about that; we’re a small operation. It’s difficult to balance multiple projects, which is a pretty constant necessity… If I had to guess right now, I’d say everything should be wrapped up in 2-4 weeks. That is a non-binding official guesstimate. The sooner it’s out the better, from my perspective as well as yours. Cheers, Amos
Thanks for sharing that.
Yeah right …
Don’t release too many products then if you can’t support them. Or use your profits to hire more staff!
Dont be too hard on them, a Moog is for life not just for Christmas, so if its delayed well its delayed we will get it eventually and for sure its a small company but one day we might be grateful of that if we need a part or something.
As much as I’d like to stay patient, this feature was part of the advertising for the initial product release. While most dealers have removed it from the specs, it still exists at Musician’s Friend “Standalone and DAW Plug-in editor included”. That’s false advertising.
While I love my Sub37 and all the features Amos has brought to it, hearing “a couple more weeks” time and time again is really not an acceptable answer any more. I seriously doubt Amos is to blame. As much as I respect what Moog does, they need to seriously consider hiring an additional programmer. If they farmed development out to a third party, they need to hold them accountable for it.
This is exactly what it is.
Our brand affection, brand association and brand fandom can be a source of joy and fun, but it is a perilous emotional state—it can delude and blind us to legitimate criticism, even ones of ethics. Moog should not promise an important, and to some, an essential, product feature and fail to deliver it. Now nearly a year later, no excuses can be made, only apologies.
Consider the very stark contrast of two other, also small, much smaller companies—Moog’s “small company” status has been proffered as an excuse and rationalization far too often for many faults—who have done the exact opposite: promise no non-existent, forthcoming features at release, but, incredibly, instead give massive, product-changing features post-release, post-ownership, for free and on several occasions.
Those two truly exceptional examples belong to Teenage Engineering and Elektron.
Post-release, Teenage Engineering has given their OP-1 synthesizer, I believe, on an annual basis product augmentations through OS upgrades that have rendered it a very different and even more joyful product. Adding more synthesis engines, a drum synthesizer, more wonderfully unconventional and useful sequencers, etc. Now, four years post product release, another major set of features is rumored to arrive next month, and it will be, quite possibly, the most impressively impactful one yet.
Post-release, Elektron has given their Analog Four synthesizer owners similar reasons for surprise and delight, as 2 hidden features were unlocked. It was announced a year later that the Analog Four actually has flash memory for 128X the capacity than was available; you now have access to 4,096 sounds, 16,384 sequencer patterns, etc. Perhaps it took them the year since release to program the OS for it to process the larger memory load—and there was not a word about this hidden potential prior. And then when Overbridge was announced, an unprecedented program that allows, for the first time, analog products to integrate with a DAW like a software instrument, it was also made known that there is an audio interface hidden inside their compact analog products, which is why you can now multi-track audio from the hardware to a DAW via only USB.
I wish Moog would take the approach that those two companies took.
not sure I agree. overbridge took a bit longer than announced, and moog has actually added and fixed quite a lot in the upgrades.
I don’t recall: Was Overbridge announced and marketed at the A4’s launch?
Just checked. Overbridge was announced in 2014. The Analog Four was released in 2012. Overbridge had been delayed after it was announced, but unlike the Sub 37’s Editor, it was not announced as a feature at the A4’s launch.
sorry, I wasn’t that clear. I bought my keys in summer 2014 and overbridge was supposed to come out the following september, but it ended up being a lot later, though I’m not sure exactly when. I just meant to say that I don’t feel that either company neglects their users, especially Moog. They strike me as being determined not to cut corners, which seems necessary for their sound. With a synth as good as the sub37, it would be a shame to skimp on the editor.