New idea for Moog synthesizer.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:29 pm

Who else thinks that Moog should produce a brand new synth (preferably analog) instead of recreating previous keyboards produced in the past.

I would like to see a smart, lightweight polysynth - with plenty of knobs, full midi, large patch storage, and strings/organ/brass sections like on the Polymoog and Opus 3.

MC · Post by MC » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:04 pm

Polymoog? Opus 3? Are you daft? Those are not proper polysynths, they are TOG fancy organs. One master VCF for the whole board. You can't get voice modulation on a TOG system, there's no way. Try to route EG to a VCO or do VCO cross mod in a TOG system - can't be done. They won't get anything beyond strings/organ/brass. There is no fun in that.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:29 pm

I was thinking of having that as a seperate section. Not sure how it would all work out.

sundaeclubber · Post by **sundaeclubber** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:24 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that just be a modern parody of an Opus or Polymoog-Keyboard?

Beluhan · Post by **Beluhan** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:00 am

Like to see a light weight polymoog too but not that expensive. And yes it does not replace a memorymoog or a minimoog. It is something different. But a polymoog can be a nice thing for background textures, without overpowering the mix like the memorymoog.

MC · Post by MC » Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:30 pm

Lightweight Polymoog? The original had a case made from polymer. The bulk of the weight was the circuit boards, 85 total. And that Pratt-Read keyboard wasn't light either. There isn't much improvement on the weight of a Polymoog.

There are sounds on a Polymoog that nothing else could get, but TOG polysynths have a very limited palette of sounds.

I still have mine, but I finally had no use for it in the studio. But it is in great shape and was my first Moog (bought it in 1985). So I chopped up some legs from Speakeasyvintage.com (Rhodes legs are same threading), stuck a plate of tempered glass on top of it, and made the Polymoog a classy looking coffee table. Looks great and it is a conversation piece

endocrine · Post by **endocrine** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:30 pm

thats a terrible fate for any synthesizer.

sundaeclubber · Post by **sundaeclubber** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:53 pm

endocrine wrote:thats a terrible fate for any synthesizer.

An EDP Wasp as a door wedge would be more useful, granted........

MC · Post by MC » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:42 pm

Hey, I lost two coffee tables in a divorce and I needed one

If there were a worthy trait of the Polymoog - it is the control panel. All the buttons and slidepots were very accessable and not far from the keyboard. I used to be able to tweak presets really fast on it. It is a really good interface, yet no one has duplicated it. I'd like to see a synth with that interface, but with a better orientation of controls.

And yes she got both coffee tables - but I got my life back, that was far more valuable

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:20 pm

Just out of interest, could I program Vox Humana on the synth version of the Polymoog, or any other synth?

MC · Post by MC » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:47 pm

could I program Vox Humana on the synth version of the Polymoog, or any other synth?

No, the Vox Humana preset uses a multiple resonant filterbank board which is unique to that instrument. I have the synth version and I tried - can't nail it, not even with the resonator section.

However you could shoehorn the multiple resonant filterbank circuit board in a Polymoog synth, I know of at least one tech who can do that. I did get a Vox Humana board from a scavenged Polymoog and intend to put the board in its own effects box, with audio I/O jacks and a power connector to mate with the ones on the Polymoog/Minimoog. I also scavenged an Omni ensemble FX and 4075 filter that I intend to do the same (sadly the rest of the omni is dead beyond salvation, a victim of being left in a damp basement)

At least two modular synth makers offer a multiple resonant filterbank, Technosaurus has a very nice sounding one. Multiple resonant filterbanks are very useful devices.

sundaeclubber · Post by **sundaeclubber** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:56 pm

........ Or you could just buy a Mellotron!

vorlon42 · Post by **vorlon42** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:51 am

MC wrote:.....So I chopped up some legs from Speakeasyvintage.com (Rhodes legs are same threading), stuck a plate of tempered glass on top of it, and made the Polymoog a classy looking coffee table. Looks great and it is a conversation piece

I can see doing that with a Poly that's gone all crufty. Or if it still works, remove the glass top (or put a hinge on the back) and play it.

For me, a great companion piece to the table would be the VAXBar. Someone took the cabinet from an old Digital Equipment Corporation VAX 11/780 and turned it into a wet bar.

StefanH · Post by **StefanH** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 3:40 pm

For me..., the line moog follows at the moment looks very well.
If they, as it look, produce a voyager rack, it could be a complementing second voice for the my voyager (or the cvejman S1 MKII) , and if moog keep on developing more moogerfoogers... ( i wish i could buy all of the existing ones), we do have the chance to build a perfect semi-modular system, which it is allready by now. I have allready the CP-251 and the VX-351, which fits perfectly to the voyager, all the other MF's will come one day, the first, and for most important will be the Ringmodulator, next the Phaser.
Still i hope that Moog can offer the three MF's in an other more rackfriendly case, like the CP and VX, so that it is more plugfriendly.
It is so nice to have this moog-gear back to the market, that i realy don't have much wishes, we are able to combine and anhance it with stuff from synthesizer.com, doepfer and all the others. Yesterday i plugged my futureretro 777 in the input of the voyager-filter and plugged the gate-out from 777 sequencer to voyager as well. There are hundrets, no thousends of choices for some experiments and soundcreating things. It is a dream! I have also the RetroVerb from Vermona, which is an analog plate verb and it is perfect for some percussive sounds from the voyager.
There are a lot of analog sequencer on the market, and they a nice, so it would be a big risk for moog, making something like that, not to mention that the voyager speaks also midi, so the is enough stuff.
In this case, they should trust their sound and filter technoligy and quality!
So you see, and sometimes i wonder too, i am not very intrested about another polyphon synth, if yes, i am able to combine some voyager (what will be the price of a rack), but i also got a sunsyn, so..., and a sequential polisix, and the polyevolver..., i see, i can't speak for everyone.

MoogMeister81 · Post by **MoogMeister81** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:31 pm

I am curious over Moog Music offering Minimoog models J, L and M. When will these three be out for commercial sale???

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