Sorry for my intrusion, I am leaving now.

[secretcervix]

Just for a moment, let's be real I know nothing anybody says on any forum means anything as to what kind of person they are or what they really feel about anything. As someone familiar with psychology should know, most of the comments made on any internet forum are not real at all. Most of the time its for shock value or whatever. We all have similar interests, and to make enemies with people that in real life we would be friends with is kind of absurd. I never meant any mean thing I said, and I know you didn't either. But my opinions were for the most part from my heart. The main point I was trying to get across is that monophonic synths share a very wise philosophy with many Indian Classical instruments, and though most Indian musicians don't know it, are perfectly suited to play raga, the main Indian Classical form. This music has been around for thousands of years and is the oldest surviving musical form. What I humbly presume, and of course I can't say this with any degree of certainty, is that the same wisdom, in a VERY DIFFERENT form, is what Dr. Robert Moog's work was rooted in. I firmly believe this, and all of my knowledge of music in both Western and the classical music of North and South India tells me: that the sound of one note is so much more important than any melody or harmony. A polyphonic synth is contrary to that wisdom and that is why I try to advise against it, but obviously it has its place, and if Moog can profit and make people happy with a new polyphonic synthesizer, so be it. I'm done, this is my last post, I just hope people will at least consider my opinion.

[latigid on]

The main problem with internet forums is that it's too easy for people to hide behind their computers and say whatever they want without fear of respite.

The other issue is that it is difficult to gauge sarcasm or other emotions in text format. The little yellow circles to the left can't do a good enough job.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. No one is entitled to force that opinion upon anybody else. If you've made your position clear, there isn't much point labouring it as the thing turns into a never ending argument.

Please keep an open mind. Please respect other people, their ideas and ways of life. It may look like virtual words on a screen, and so detached from reality, but these sorts of places are important to people. Otherwise we wouldn't bother.

Andy

[sunny pedaal]

good luck !

[Amos]

We are looking into alternative tuning scales for our monophonic synths, including raga/indian classical tunings. Personally I would love to see Moog synths incorporated into the vocabulary of Indian / Asian / Persian classical musics...

-Amos

[jeepo]

We are looking into alternative tuning scales for our monophonic synths, including raga/indian classical tunings. Personally I would love to see Moog synths incorporated into the vocabulary of Indian / Asian / Persian classical musics...

-Amos

I'm working on building a CV keyboard, which will allow me to tune each note at will for use with my foogers, and phatty, I'll let y'all know how it works out, but as I'm in the process of moving, it may take a while.

[The Analog Organist]

We are looking into alternative tuning scales for our monophonic synths, including raga/indian classical tunings. Personally I would love to see Moog synths incorporated into the vocabulary of Indian / Asian / Persian classical musics...

-Amos

Well, boy, do we have a customer for you!

[theglyph]

We are looking into alternative tuning scales for our monophonic synths, including raga/indian classical tunings. Personally I would love to see Moog synths incorporated into the vocabulary of Indian / Asian / Persian classical musics...

-Amos

This isn't unreasonable considering how the LP (and I'm assuming the T3) tuning algorithm works. This would be amazing. You better get on top of it Amos!

[superd2112]

I don't buy it for a minute.
This is a drowning troll, flailing about in a desperate last attempt to keep from being banned.
Please appoing some moderators, limit forum users to one ID per email address, and ban the trolls - especially when they have the gall to actually identify themselves as such.
I'm convinced that this guy has at least 8 or more identies here, and will continue his reign of terror if something is not done to stop him for good.

[dr_floyd]

The concept of the Moog voice in Middle Eastern and Indian music is a great idea. Love the idea of altered tunings, even beyond traditional uses.

Shankar's double violin with processing has a very synthesizer-like sound, and Shawn Lane's electric guitar also was very synthesizer-like when played with Indian and Pakistani musicians.

[anoteoftruth]

I also think it could be used well within indian and other ethnic music.

Let's keep in mind that these synth's have so many uses, and do different things for different people. I came from a hard rock background, then stumbled into jazz, and found my way to experimental/hip hop... I mostly use my Moog's on a day to day basis, producing hip hop.. for bass lines, leads, sound effects, etc. I was inspired by guys like:

Prefuse 73
Mike Slott
Hudson Mohawke
Flying Lotus

etc etc..

But I wouldnt dare say I limit my use of the moog to that style.. I grew up listening to everything from Zeppelin to Radiohead, Pink Floyd to Sigur Ros...

When I'm making more guitar based music, melodies, folk or alternative rock, whatever... I always find a way to get a Moog into the mix. And so did a lot of the people that inspired and influenced me.

Nowadays I spend more time with my Moog's than any other of my intstruments, solely because I still have a lot to explore with them, and I feel like I've kind of tapped out the guitars and things enough.

But my point is, wether its classical, prog, rock, hip hop, dub or any other dance style music, indian classical, modern, pop, whatever.... Moog's have a use in every style, every genre.. not only is it a instrument, but its a sound design tool.. There's so many uses for them, to me my Moogs are so essential in the studio.

[Trigger]

The main point I was trying to get across is that monophonic synths share a very wise philosophy with many Indian Classical instruments, and though most Indian musicians don't know it, are perfectly suited to play raga, the main Indian Classical form. This music has been around for thousands of years and is the oldest surviving musical form. What I humbly presume, and of course I can't say this with any degree of certainty, is that the same wisdom, in a VERY DIFFERENT form, is what Dr. Robert Moog's work was rooted in. I firmly believe this, and all of my knowledge of music in both Western and the classical music of North and South India tells me: that the sound of one note is so much more important than any melody or harmony. A polyphonic synth is contrary to that wisdom and that is why I try to advise against it, but obviously it has its place, and if Moog can profit and make people happy with a new polyphonic synthesizer, so be it. I'm done, this is my last post, I just hope people will at least consider my opinion.

Well, Moog did offer the 950B Scale Programmer at one time, so you have to give them credit for that:

http://moogarchives.com/m950b.htm

I also remember a tune on David Sancious' first album, Forest of Feelings (unfortunately OOP), called East India, which had a nice sitar/tambura-like patch with a touch of drone, on a minimoog. You should check it out if it's available for download somewhere.

[Veeger]

ok....?

there is dharma in nondharma elements....

there CAN be polyphony in monophonic synthesizers....

depends on how well you tweak frequency knobs and the like...

I just don't get this obsession with eastern aesthetics and pigeonholing moog into that box.

don't get me wrong, I love monophonic - but seriously, why get all fundamentalist on how moog decides to progress as a company???

[moremagic]

Why bump every thread on the forums ?

[psicolor]

that the sound of one note is so much more important than any melody or harmony.

For most musicians i know a chord is NOT only a stack of different notes but a sound! The same chord can make different sounds with different voicings.

But i have to admit that i'm not into asian music, I'll have my first asia jam session today in the afternoon....

[Veeger]

that the sound of one note is so much more important than any melody or harmony.

For most musicians i know a chord is NOT only a stack of different notes but a sound! The same chord can make different sounds with different voicings.

But i have to admit that i'm not into asian music, I'll have my first asia jam session today in the afternoon....

nicely said psicolor!