is the murf able to do the same as the low-pass moogerfooger

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tor
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is the murf able to do the same as the low-pass moogerfooger

Post by tor » Mon Oct 18, 2004 1:43 pm

hey,
i just bought the phaser, and i think i can afford one more moogerfooger. so, i wondered, does the new murf in any way do the same stuff as the low-pass moogerfooger? what are the differences? Also, i checked out the samples on moogmusic.com, and it seemed to me that the ring-moogerfooger was an effect mostly suitable for creating noise. is that the case?

i play the guitar (in a band playing alternativ rock, inspired by radiohead, and muse among others). any views on which moogefooger i should get in addition to the phaser? i know it's written alot about similar issues already in the forum, but i'm not too technical, so i didn't quite get it.

and finally, where do you usually plug in the expression pedal?

i would greatly apreciate any advice :)

tor

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Post by sir_dss » Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:34 pm

I don't know what you should do about the Moogerfoogers, but here is some advise about band influence.

You NEVER form a band bases on a current band. OK??? Unless you have a tribuite band called Kid Computer, or Hail to the Thieves. Look to the bands that Radiohead were influenced by and mix it with your experiences. THIS IS YOU ONLY HOPE. Try and find some Can records or other German groups from the early 70's. Neu!, Cluster, Harmonia, etc... Eno would also be a good choice. Another Green World rules. And the "pop" records with David Bowie too. Low, Heroes, Lodger are so good. Then go deeper that that. 20'th century composers like Stockhausen, Morton Feldman, John Cage, Alvin Lucier, Dick Radjmaker etc... Or the Out Jazz side like Sun Ra, Albert Aylar, Coltrane's "OM" is outstanding.

tor
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Post by tor » Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:46 pm

hey, hehe, i didn't mean it that way, just wanted to (very briefly) give whoever cares to answer my question an idea of what kind of music my band is playing. So i used a couple of the international bands we've been compared to in reviews and stuff, that are well known :) Surely, refering to more obscure, less known influences wouldn't do.

i'm perfectly clear that BASING a band upon a couple of others is hopeless and leads to nowhere. personally i like to let non-music stuff inspire the music i make. like movies, books etc. also i often get ideas from music used in completely different contexts than anything near the genre we're in. However, i don't share the opinion that one can't be inspired by contemporary bands. older isn't necessary better, or closer to what you're looking for.

I'd love to check out the bands you're recommending anyway :)

but still, i would love to get an answer to my question. anyone?

tor
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Post by tor » Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:35 pm

...and one more question: if you got two moogerfoogers, is there anyway to only use one expression pedal to control them both, without having to switch the input jack from one to the other? by using a split on the expression cable or something?

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Post by LWG » Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:08 am

Hello,

The Mooger ringmod pedal can be used for more than just special effects.
Ringmod in general tends to be mainly used as an effect however, it provides an additional sound shaping resource. It functions as a harmonic distortion device by producing an output wave thats determined by
the pitch ratio of the inputs. By varying the pitch ratio, you vary the
sound color.
Also, the MURF is a bandpass filter array and has a different character than
a lowpass filter. The Mooger Phaser you now use is an allpass filter.
These three pedals all feature different types of filtering which have their own tone-modifying character.
If there is a Moog dealer in the area in which you reside, it may be worth
it to put aside some time, venture there and try the other pedals you have an interest in, to determine which one best fits your sound requirements.
There is also a wealth of resources online to further familiarise you with
the various types of filters and what it is they do.


Regards,


LWG

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