Ok, so I'm going to admit off the bat that I'm new to this kind of equipment.
If I wanted to hook up a microphone and possibly a speaker to the MF-102 Ring Modulator how would I go about doing that ?
Mic with Ring Mod
The specific connections on the ringmod would be:
The effects send/receive connection on the mixer uses an insert cable. The insert cable has three plugs, one stereo, and two mono. The stereo plug goes into the mixer's effect send/receive jack, while one mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio in, and the other mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio out. (One mono plug connects to the ring, and the other mono plug connects to the tip of the stereo plug that goes into the mixer. The mono plugs will be marked as to which one is the tip, and which one is the ring.) The mixer sends the signal from the mic on the tip of the insert cable's stereo plug, and receives the signal back on the ring. However, be advised that this might be reversed in that, the mic signal may sent on the ring, and received on the tip. Check your mixer's user manual to be sure.
I hope this helps. Experiment, you can't hurt anything.
- 1. Mic > mixer mic in
2. Mixer effects send > MF-102 audio in
3. MF-102 audio out > mixer effects receive
4. Mixer audio out > amplifier instrument in
The effects send/receive connection on the mixer uses an insert cable. The insert cable has three plugs, one stereo, and two mono. The stereo plug goes into the mixer's effect send/receive jack, while one mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio in, and the other mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio out. (One mono plug connects to the ring, and the other mono plug connects to the tip of the stereo plug that goes into the mixer. The mono plugs will be marked as to which one is the tip, and which one is the ring.) The mixer sends the signal from the mic on the tip of the insert cable's stereo plug, and receives the signal back on the ring. However, be advised that this might be reversed in that, the mic signal may sent on the ring, and received on the tip. Check your mixer's user manual to be sure.
I hope this helps. Experiment, you can't hurt anything.
May J Dunk I'm a little confused about the cabling. If it helps, the mixer I was thinking of using is http://www.alesis.com/multimix8usbmayidunk wrote:
The use of a mixer is advised if the mic uses a balanced connector (as most mics do). Otherwise, you might be able to skip the mixer and plug the mic directly into the MF-102's audio input.
The effects send/receive connection on the mixer uses an insert cable. The insert cable has three plugs, one stereo, and two mono. The stereo plug goes into the mixer's effect send/receive jack, while one mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio in, and the other mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio out. (One mono plug connects to the ring, and the other mono plug connects to the tip of the stereo plug that goes into the mixer. The mono plugs will be marked as to which one is the tip, and which one is the ring.) The mixer sends the signal from the mic on the tip of the insert cable's stereo plug, and receives the signal back on the ring. However, be advised that this might be reversed in that, the mic signal may sent on the ring, and received on the tip. Check your mixer's user manual to be sure.
I hope this helps. Experiment, you can't hurt anything.
Is the name of the cable an insert cable ?
that mixer has no inserts
use aux B....post fader for effects.
-connect aux B send jack to input of the ring mod with instrument cable
-output of the ring mod to aux B return with instrument cable
-tweak the aux B return pot for good signal-to-noise
-adjust the amount of effect in the channel you're mic is plugged into by the channel's aux B level control.
use aux B....post fader for effects.
-connect aux B send jack to input of the ring mod with instrument cable
-output of the ring mod to aux B return with instrument cable
-tweak the aux B return pot for good signal-to-noise
-adjust the amount of effect in the channel you're mic is plugged into by the channel's aux B level control.
It is called an "Insert Cable," however you don't need it if what acorkos says is true.acorkos wrote:that mixer has no inserts
use aux B....post fader for effects.
-connect aux B send jack to input of the ring mod with instrument cable
-output of the ring mod to aux B return with instrument cable
-tweak the aux B return pot for good signal-to-noise
-adjust the amount of effect in the channel you're mic is plugged into by the channel's aux B level control.
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In this case, seeing as your mixer has separate send and receive jacks, then you don't need an insert cable. TRS or TS cables will work. One for the send, one for the receive.ColinSnow wrote:Just to understand this right.
I would not use a TRS to mono "Y" (or Insert) cable but instead just use a regular TRS (or instrument) cable yes?
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Thanx for the tip! I tried this on the MF-101, and it does indeed work, but it probably doesn't sound as good as the MF-102 in that regards. But I'm not complaining....mayidunk wrote:The specific connections on the ringmod would be:The use of a mixer is advised if the mic uses a balanced connector (as most mics do). Otherwise, you might be able to skip the mixer and plug the mic directly into the MF-102's audio input.
- 1. Mic > mixer mic in
2. Mixer effects send > MF-102 audio in
3. MF-102 audio out > mixer effects receive
4. Mixer audio out > amplifier instrument in
The effects send/receive connection on the mixer uses an insert cable. The insert cable has three plugs, one stereo, and two mono. The stereo plug goes into the mixer's effect send/receive jack, while one mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio in, and the other mono plug goes into the MF-102 audio out. (One mono plug connects to the ring, and the other mono plug connects to the tip of the stereo plug that goes into the mixer. The mono plugs will be marked as to which one is the tip, and which one is the ring.) The mixer sends the signal from the mic on the tip of the insert cable's stereo plug, and receives the signal back on the ring. However, be advised that this might be reversed in that, the mic signal may sent on the ring, and received on the tip. Check your mixer's user manual to be sure.
I hope this helps. Experiment, you can't hurt anything.