Voyager Acid Basslines

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:51 pm

If you don't like acid house music you probably won't like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnT2fW1o9WM

It was a one take recording, so it's not the best production, but the Voyager sounds great as usual.

Fogflip · Post by **Fogflip** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:42 pm

hey great video, question how can midi feedback cause damage?

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:03 pm

I've heard of people completely ruining their Moogs with MIDI feedback while working within DAWs.

You'd have to ask Moog why this happens, because I really don't know.

machinea · Post by **machinea** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:31 pm

I've heard of people completely ruining their Moogs with MIDI feedback while working within DAWs.

seriously

another good reason to get a hardware sequencer I guess.
or just feed the midi back into something like a machinedrum and then have that control the moog? am I understanding this correctly. yeowza. or is there another way to avoid hurting it.

aaronh · Post by **aaronh** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:07 pm

how can midi even break anything?

Just Me · Post by **Just Me** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:20 pm

I was wondering that myself. MIDI is a spec. The voltage is the same on each line regardless of whats driving it. I can see large info flow locking a processor, but doing damage? Someone enlighten me.

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:46 pm

Ask Amos, it's in the manual that MIDI feedback can be dangerous.

Prime NL · Post by **Prime NL** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:55 am

I cannot find anything related in the manuals or the addendums concerning dangerous Midi feedback....maybe Amos can enlighten us....but i never heard anything about breaking your synth with Midi feedback.

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:25 am

I know it's in the LP hard copy manual for sure.

Prime NL · Post by **Prime NL** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:19 am

I guessed it was in the Voyager manual cause the topic was placed also there...

GregAE · Post by **GregAE** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:07 am

Damage from MIDI feedback loops? I don't think so. While MIDI feedback loops can result in stuck notes, uneven playback from a sequencer, random patch changes and even weird effects from strange controller messages, none of this can cause damage in and of itself. Any undesirable effects resulting from a feedback loop can be remedied by cycling the power on the receiving instrument (power reset for hardware), or by quitting/relaunching the DAW - no permanent damage, although you may have lost some of your work in the process (moral: save early/save often). Of course, if the MIDI loop is still there after a reset, the problem will likely reoccur.

As for any real damage to hardware, I suppose it's possible to blow a speaker with an unexpected blast from a loud stuck note, but that's probably about it.

BTW, there's nothing in any of the current Voyager or Little Phatty manuals about damaging the instrument from a MIDI feedback loop. I would know.

- Greg

Anna's Digit · Post by **Anna's Digit** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:48 am

I guess it's time to call the Mythbusters ............

Subtronik · Post by **Subtronik** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:26 pm

I was told by someone at Moog MIDI feedback can damage a Moog, and I know a sure way to test this.

Hook up a Little Phatty's or Voyager's MIDI in and out to the same soundcard MIDI connections.

Without altering any MIDI settings, start Sony ACID Pro and make a MIDI track in it for the LP or Voyager.

Start drawing MIDI notes and let it play out for awhile.

Anything strange starting to happen?

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Edit: I'm guessing no one's ready to take the risk of screwing up their Moog to test this, but if Greg's right then there's really nothing to worry about.