Using the effect loop insert

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Using the effect loop insert

Post by mcskeezer » Wed May 13, 2009 11:32 am

I have an old Alesis Nanoverb effects unit which I plugged into my RME using a 2x Mono to Stereo TRS cable. I patched a mono into the send and one into the return of the effects unit and then plugged the Stereo end into the Mixer out/filter in input. It kinda worked out ok, but I'm not too sure if this setup was the correct one.....can anyone give me some feed back on how they use this input with external effects?

Thanks.
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Post by Prime NL » Wed May 13, 2009 11:36 am

Page 18 of the Voyager 2.0 manual tells you everything you need to know about this and/or if you did it the right way.

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Post by mcskeezer » Wed May 13, 2009 1:56 pm

Ahh, yes! this helps to explain the setup....it appears that i had everything set up appropriately, I guess I need to experiment a little more! Thanks Prime NL, I guess I should read through the manual before posting :oops:

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Post by acorkos » Wed May 13, 2009 1:59 pm

make sure you have the mono ends connected correctly

tip=send (input of your effects unit)
ring=return (output of your effects unit)

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Post by Prime NL » Wed May 13, 2009 2:17 pm

No problem mcskeezer.....glad i could help you out... :wink:

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Post by rodion » Fri May 15, 2009 7:36 am

the effects insert point on the voyager is placed right before the filter section. that means that every effect you apply to the oscillators (or to external sound sources you plug in the voyager) is going to be filtered by voyager filters, unless you plug a mono cable from the mixer out/filter in jack to your FX unit input, bypassing the filter section. the good thing about placing effects before filters is that your sounds still retains a full moog body though being effected. try to plug a distortion pedal after the audio out: you'll hear a thin and 'in a box' sound. try to plug the same distortion pedal in the 'mixer out/filter in' jack and you'll hear full bodied moog sounds with a nice grit coming from the distortion. that's the difference. but to properly hear the beauty of FX before filtering, you need some FX that alters the harmonic content of your sound in a more drastic way than a reverb does, like a fuzz or ring modulator: if you lowpass filter a reverberated signal, good chances are that you can barely notice the reverb effect after filtering.

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Post by mcskeezer » Fri May 15, 2009 11:49 am

acorkos wrote:make sure you have the mono ends connected correctly

tip=send (input of your effects unit)
ring=return (output of your effects unit)
How can I tell which mono end goes to the tip and the ring?

Also, how do you like the MFB Step 64? The demos on youtube are really cool...would work great with the RME....I'm not keen on the step sequencer on my MC303, for drums it's great to program, but not so much for step type melodies and bass lines...
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Post by mcskeezer » Fri May 15, 2009 11:53 am

Rodion - thanks a lot for the great details!

I've seen what you mean by the reverb, I tried that and it pretty much disappears when the cutoff is turned down....also with delay, I think only the delay part is heard....I wonder how the fooger's work with this....although the delay is a little out of my reach :cry:
Thanks again for the info
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