vx352 vs vx351
vx352 vs vx351
I'm thinking I want one of these. What's the difference. Advantages disadvantages? I have an electric blue and a fewmoogerfoogers. Thanks.
The 351 is a CV breakout box for the Voyager that hooks up via a DB25 cable. The 352 is a CV input box for the RME. The RME doesn't have all of the CV jacks on it like the backside of the Voyager which helps reduce costs. To get all of the CV capability of a stand alone Voyager you need the 352 so the 351 and a Voyager does more than a 352 and an RME.
Basically, you don't want to buy things you don't need so get a 351 if you are getting a Voyager or a 352 if you are getting a RME. You don't need a 352 if you have a Voyager, get CP-251 modules and the MFs (preferrably doubles of each so you can run it stereo) if you have extra money.
I'm not sure if a VX module is planned for the LP or if it will just use a 352 as well.
Basically, you don't want to buy things you don't need so get a 351 if you are getting a Voyager or a 352 if you are getting a RME. You don't need a 352 if you have a Voyager, get CP-251 modules and the MFs (preferrably doubles of each so you can run it stereo) if you have extra money.
I'm not sure if a VX module is planned for the LP or if it will just use a 352 as well.
well...on the rme there are two ports for connecting to a breakoutbox - one for outs and one for ins obviously, so with the RME one should pick up a 352 and a 351 for access to all the cv ins and outs for maximum flexibility, barring of course the cv outs for the trackpad......though it would be sweet if that could be midi controlled.
so whats the story, should I as an RME owner pencil in both units ( 352 and 351 ) cos thats what I figure, but some people seem to be suggesting only one unit is needed for the RME......
in fact, i reckon RME owners benefit from using both units, and I HOPE that the trackpad cv outs can be midi controlled using the appropriate CC number. at least it wouldnt be totally redundant then.
so whats the story, should I as an RME owner pencil in both units ( 352 and 351 ) cos thats what I figure, but some people seem to be suggesting only one unit is needed for the RME......
in fact, i reckon RME owners benefit from using both units, and I HOPE that the trackpad cv outs can be midi controlled using the appropriate CC number. at least it wouldnt be totally redundant then.
The vx351 can definitely be used with the rme. From its manual:
"The Outputs can be connected to a VX-351 Voyager CV Expander. They are all the CV and Gate signals generated by the Voyager Rack Mount."
Only thing is, most of the outputs of the vx351 correspond to the voyager's physical controls (the pad, wheels, keyboard, etc). I wonder if this means that the rme will convert incoming (certain) midi data into CVs? Certainly the rme's parameters, like the voyager's, are controlled by this strange hybrid of midi and CV that moog has cooked up. So perhaps the process whereby a midi controller is turned into a CV also means that the signal will be available via the output ports.
As far as the pad is concerned, on the voyager the pad will generate CCs, but it doesn't respond to them (the destinations of the pad all have their own 14 bit controllers anyway). The rme will accept CVs representing the pad's CVs via the vx352, but you have to generate those somewhere else anyway. So it seems to me that the pad outs are redundant as far as the rme is concerned.
I don't think that the lp can use either box as it doesn't seem to have an expansion port. The fact, though, that there are CV ins for pitch, filter, volume and gate, as well as an external audio in, means that it will work very nicely with the cp251 (which is intentional, I am sure).
As far as the original poster is concerned, the vx351 will allow you to use your voyager to control your moogerfoogers. I can't think any good reason why you wouldn't want to do this.
"The Outputs can be connected to a VX-351 Voyager CV Expander. They are all the CV and Gate signals generated by the Voyager Rack Mount."
Only thing is, most of the outputs of the vx351 correspond to the voyager's physical controls (the pad, wheels, keyboard, etc). I wonder if this means that the rme will convert incoming (certain) midi data into CVs? Certainly the rme's parameters, like the voyager's, are controlled by this strange hybrid of midi and CV that moog has cooked up. So perhaps the process whereby a midi controller is turned into a CV also means that the signal will be available via the output ports.
As far as the pad is concerned, on the voyager the pad will generate CCs, but it doesn't respond to them (the destinations of the pad all have their own 14 bit controllers anyway). The rme will accept CVs representing the pad's CVs via the vx352, but you have to generate those somewhere else anyway. So it seems to me that the pad outs are redundant as far as the rme is concerned.
I don't think that the lp can use either box as it doesn't seem to have an expansion port. The fact, though, that there are CV ins for pitch, filter, volume and gate, as well as an external audio in, means that it will work very nicely with the cp251 (which is intentional, I am sure).
As far as the original poster is concerned, the vx351 will allow you to use your voyager to control your moogerfoogers. I can't think any good reason why you wouldn't want to do this.
I have the 101, 102 and the murf. actually I have a 102 on ebay right now(i've got two 102's for a moment) wouldn't the 351 help me sync my murf to tempo in live 5? i've read some posts about the step adapter and a pulse from the computer. can the 351 help me sync other moogerfooger functions like lfo etc?
the only problem would be the different gatesjamirokid wrote:Thanks for the help. My next project is to control my sh-101 with the voyager cv. That should be able to happen if I get the 351, right?
roland uses a different gate to moog, as far as i know the sh101 would only make sounds when none of the keys are pressed, as soon as you press a key the sound would stop.
but if you inverted the gate signal then maybe you could solve this? don't really know sorry.