MF-104Z and reverb.

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Keith Weintraub
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MF-104Z and reverb.

Post by Keith Weintraub » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:48 pm

Can the MV-104Z create reverb like sounds?

I have a THD Flexi-50 which is a (guitar) amp that has no reverb. Is it possible to put the MF104Z in the effects loop of my amp?

Thanks for you help and time,
KW

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Post by Dannymon » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:10 pm

Not really...you can get close to it, but the minimum delay time in the 104z (50ms) won't allow for "reverb" sounds.

Edit: Altough you won't exactly get reverb sounds, You won't regret getting the 104z, and if you add an expression pedal to control the 104's parameters you will have lots of fun.
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Post by MarkM » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:01 pm

Dannymon is right. Close, but no cigar. But it sure does a great slapback.
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Re: MF-104Z and reverb.

Post by Dannymon » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:27 pm

Keith Weintraub wrote: I have a THD Flexi-50 which is a (guitar) amp that has no reverb. Is it possible to put the MF104Z in the effects loop of my amp?

Thanks for you help and time,
KW
To answer your second question....Yes, you could use this effect thru the loop of your amp, as a matter of fact its is recommendable to use any time based effect (Delay, Reverb, Chorus, Flange, Etc) through the Loop insert as it will avoid Harmonic distortion. Also try avoiding using the loop of your amp for your filters, Compressor and distortion as they tend to loose a little strenght and presence, is better to use these effects in line with your guitar.

Hope this helps.

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Post by Keith Weintraub » Tue Dec 13, 2005 8:19 am

Folks,
Thanks for the kind responses. I would like to clarify my second question just a bit.

I don't know that much about how effects work or how effects loops work. I do know that there may be a difference between the voltage coming out of the guitar and the voltage coming out of the effects loop of my amp.

Do I need to worry about this for the 104Z?

Thanks for your time and help,
KW

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Post by analoghaze » Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:26 pm

Any of the Mooger effects can handle any signal either your guitar or amp can through at them.

Personally, I would think that the Moog delay is not your best bet if reverb is all you want. There are good sounding reverb pedals for guitar that are one fifth the price of a 104z.
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Post by asd » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:17 am

i get a pretty good sounding reverb by setting the delay time pretty short on the 104 (50ms to less than 100ish), using the external loop and then putting another delay set at a time less than whatever the 104 is set to. you can tweak the sound from there

set at a real short time the 104 kinda sounds like you're playing in a real small, echo-y room.

there's things that do reverb better, but i think you can still use the 104 and get some good sounds that are pretty close

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