Playing Live - Very Strange Voyager Behavious

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Playing Live - Very Strange Voyager Behavious

Post by Splashmash » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:03 pm

Hi

I took my Voyager out my studio to play it live at an event in a club on friday night and experienced some very strange behaviour.

The LCD screen constantly flashed up either the current value of the mod 1 knob or one of the octave control switches. As if someone was constantly wiggling them. Soundwise, however, the synth worked perfectly. The main difficulty was that someof the time this info was flashing up so freqently (in fact it was on most of the time) that it was impossble to read what patch I was on.

Got the synth back to the studio ... working perfectly?!?

Any ideas?

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Post by GregAE » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:01 pm

From the description it doesn't sound like a loose connection is the culprit. Maybe some kind of interference, or unsteady power/power transients??

Glad to hear it's working properly again, but unsettling nevertheless.

Are you playing the same club again any time soon?

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Post by MarkM » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:07 am

I had a similar problem like that with my some of my Mod bank switches. It wouldn't let go until I turned the V'ger off and on. Had to have it serviced by Moog. Works great now.
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Post by Splashmash » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:16 am

In my case even switching off then on didn't always work. At any given time it could have been playing up or behaving fine. Very strange.

I was my expanding my (usually predominantly laptop based) club-set for the first time. This was a test-gig really but I don't know if I want to go hard-at-it promoting my new set until I'm confident things are gonna be working as they should. The set went well but it was quite unnerving.

I did think perhaps it could be some issue with power (too much power being pulled from that room or something). Do you think some kind of power-conditioning unit/UPS might help?

MarkM. When did you have this problem? In the studio or on stage? Was it only rectified afetr a servicing?

Thanks for the help

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Post by wthrelfall » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:03 pm

i have had a similiar problem, and have posted a thread on this forum about it. I think that heat had something to do with it, and it sounds like it might have for you too if the club was very hot? Mines been fine since summer ended and the studio has cooled down a bit. I will probably not use my voyager live for fear of heat being a problem, and with mine it does sometimes affect the patch. I'm holding out til v.3 before i take it for an overhaul in case it's a quick fix, but with such a randomly occuring problem it will be hard to know if it does fix it.
Hope you get it sorted, I know how annoying it can be...

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Post by MarkM » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:04 pm

Mine happened any time. There was somethng about the Mod/pedal Source switch that would dominate the menu, and you could never get back into panel mode. I live near Moog, so I was able to bring mine into repair. It was an AE that was only a couple of months old. It's been fine after the repair. This was all within the last month.
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Post by Splashmash » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:54 am

This is all very intersting. It does sound like I have exactly the same problem as you. I hadn't thought it could be heat related, I had only thought about power conditioning. Will be a pain to get it fixed though as I'm in the uk and don't live too near to london. Also, as you say it will be very hard to tell whether the problem's been remedied or not without taking it out to a hot club! :? :(

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Re: Playing Live - Very Strange Voyager Behavious

Post by falseface11 » Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:16 pm

Splashmash wrote:Hi

I took my Voyager out my studio to play it live at an event in a club on friday night and experienced some very strange behaviour.

The LCD screen constantly flashed up either the current value of the mod 1 knob or one of the octave control switches. As if someone was constantly wiggling them. Soundwise, however, the synth worked perfectly. The main difficulty was that someof the time this info was flashing up so freqently (in fact it was on most of the time) that it was impossble to read what patch I was on.

Got the synth back to the studio ... working perfectly?!?

Any ideas?


I had the exact same problem every time i had band practice.. the solution for me was quite simple, yet took 3 practices to figure out..

* vibrations traveling up the stand to the voyager were causing the knobs with a lil' bit more play in them(i.e. the more commonly used ones) to register movement, but not enough to create a parametric change. giving the appearance that it was "displaying" the parameters, or that it was bouncing back and forth between the parameters of different controls.
* my solution was to decouple the voyager from the stand or resonant surface it is being played upon, by using acoustic foam in between. :wink:

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