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I promised to create some samples of my Model D since I think it sounds more alive and fatter then the Voyager. I’m not complaining, I love my MMV AE. Here are some mp3 samples all recorded without effects.
I’m afraid my Model D is a bit sick right now and she will soon be gonging to the doctor for a check up but I managed to create some sounds.

xsynt_filter_sweep
xsyn_bass
xsynt_ResoBass
xsynt_JazzBass

Kind regards
Demokid

When you say "alive and fatter" what do you mean?

Well… I get more “oomph” (puchier sound) out of the D then the MMV. The envelopes seems a lot tighter (faster) on the D, the oscillators seams hotter (don’t know how to explain it).

One sawtooth on the D has a lot more feeling then one on the MMV. If you make a basic Minimoog sound with three VCO’s on the MMV and make the same sound on the D with 2 VCO’s the D still sounds fatter, warmer and punchier.

I think the only way to experience the difference in the sound is to play with both on the same time. I will not sell the D since I always use it for deep hard basses and fat leads.

But the MMV is still a great sizer and has more stability better MIDI and a lot more fun things to play around with.

Regards
Demokid

Demokid,
I second every word.

I might to add, that I like to have a synth in this class with me on stage. And I am to afraid my Mini could break down because of this. So the Voyager is the closest thing to the Minimoog. And the added new modulation possibilities make it nearly a tine Moog Modular.

Using the feedback loop on the Voyager and only use the single filter output will improove the Voyager's sound in terms of sounding like the Minimoog. But I only did so for some testing only.

Demonkid,

I understand when you say "puchier" and the envelopes seems a lot tighter.

But when you use terms like "sawtooth on the D has a lot more feeling" and warmer. Things you could say about a human being I get lost.

How does the Sawtooth have more feelings?

Is there a more technical way to explain?

I think the sawtooth is most emotional of all waveforms.

The S & H is a bit schizoid. . .

Yes, and squarewaves are downright a$$holes.

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Actually, some of my best friends are squarewaves!



- Greg

Demokid - these are nice sounds. I was going to see if I could (somewhat) match them but I've actually been writing music rather than messing about with gear.

I'd like to have a go, though, and it would help a lot if you could give a brief patch description of each - number and shape of oscillators, basic env / filter settings. It doesn't have to be exact, just a frame of reference. Tx

Hi,

there are people I know that prefer the Voyager over the Minimoog. It is all very subjective. If you are accustomed to a particular quality in a synth and you think A is fatter than B, this is what you are going to hear. Too many people are biased with analog preoccupations.

Hmm… I actually don’t remember the settings. I know I used all three VCO’s, probably (32,16,16) or (32,16,8). I think I used sawtooth, pulse-1 and SawTri waves. I did some tweaking in real time of e.g. resonance, cut-off and Filter Decay.

I usually don’t like to make demo samples of sizers since it takes time from my composing but this was actually really fun.

Suthnear:
I don’t think you have to work so hard to copy my sounds… just have fun and create some cool sound on your MMV.

Kind regards
Demokid

Thanks DK - I thought you'd used all three but because the voyager's waveshaper is continuous it can take quite a while to dial in the 'right' combos. Might get some time tonight...

ikazlar - we are all but the sum of our preoccupations for me, anyway, this is an exercise in careful listening and I hope that I will come out of it knowing just a little bit more about my voyager than I do now.

Hi Demokid,

Thanks for the nice samples from your Model D.
That helps me to make the MMV sounds like a Model D.
I have tried to match your first sample "xsynt_filter_sweep" with my Voyager, recorded from left-out only.

xsynt_filter_sweepMMV

Greets
Auratune

Wow, I can't tell the difference. I thought I could at first, but blind I was fooled.