The Next Synthesizer From Moog Music!!!

Moog Beam · Post by **Moog Beam** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:28 pm

Hey!
I just wanted to remind all of the folks at Moog Music that many of us are still quite interested as to what will be your next "great" synth.
I have come up with the best idea (of course) and here it is:
MEMORYMOOG!!!
Make a Memorymoog the way it should be made (all of the great stability of the Voyager) with all of the modern gizmos. I think it would be ok if it was a 6 voice synth with no sequencer (everyone has one already). I believe this new Moog should have two filters with all of the possible routing combinations...I believe this is primary to its success. Please use toggle switches like on the mini, and nice knobs. Use the same waveform as in the original Memorymoog to give it its own place among the greatest synths...that unique sound of the MM was incredible (this is also very important). Make the Memorymoog Voyager compatible with the external devices the Minimoog utilizes (CP-251, VX-351).
I own a Memorymoog Plus, and it still rules the roost. It is the most powerful sounding poly-synth ever made (IMHO). However, it is away for repair (again), and I would pay for the new, improved Memorymoog Voyager. Lighted? Blue lights? NO...RED!!! Red lights, like an evil light sabre red.The Modulation control area should be the same excepting for the fact that there would be extra routings to that extra filter for nice vocoding effects and High pass, low pass sweeps...If it does not have the extra filter I will petition my congressman and have your Moog license revoked, so take care in your decision.
Thank you,
And do not forget the discount for the ideas.
David Hobson (Moog Beam)
P.S. Is it too much to ask that the endcaps be the same thick aluminum?

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:37 pm

Think of the cost!!!

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:59 pm

The Moog people would probably have to liscense the parts from Studio Electronics, since the CEM chips that comprised the Memorymoog don't exist, anymore.

Cruel Hoax · Post by **Cruel Hoax** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:05 pm

I want Taurus pedals. With the tone of the Taurus I, the pole mount of Taurus II, but with a Rogue stuck on top, not just a Taurus head. (Maybe a self/remote/both switch for the Rogue).

This:

But with a Rogue on top. With keys. Yeah, baby.

-Hoax

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

I want a new version of the Polymoog Synthesizer, with the extra presets of the Keyboard version!

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:08 pm

Boeing 737-400 wrote:I want a new version of the Polymoog Synthesizer, with the extra presets of the Keyboard version!

Or, the Opus 3 with a 5-octave keyboard and both the pitch bend AND modulation wheels. Sure, the sliders functioned as makeshift mod-wheels, but this is the 21st centuryl The standards have set in.

Of course, it wouldn't hurt to include 128 memory patches in the chasis.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:24 pm

Ok, combine that with the Polymoog (if possible) and call it something else!

endocrine · Post by **endocrine** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:49 pm

I want a modular, Tuarus/Theremin that be controlled with brain waves and has infinite tonal-complexities/polyphony.

Demokid · Post by **Demokid** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:33 am

I wish for a cool but simple desktop sizer like the CreamWare VA-sizer Minimax. I think it would be cool to have a real analogue sizer in a desktop box with proper hardware.
2 VCO (with individual PWM), 1 VCF, 2 ADSR, LFO's and maybe a ringmod.

Regards
Demokid

crootnik · Post by **crootnik** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:20 pm

I also want Taurus pedals. big time... and I know at least 10 other musicians who want them.

they are very good writing tools for guitarists...

Array · Post by **Array** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:56 pm

ebg31 wrote:The Moog people would probably have to liscense the parts from Studio Electronics, since the CEM chips that comprised the Memorymoog don't exist, anymore.

From what I understand it was Studio Electronics that liscenced the VCO and VCF designs from Moog....

Also, new CEM chips are being made for the Evolver line of synths.

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:15 pm

DUH!! Why didn't I think of that, before?

And only months ago, I believed that the Curtis chips were out of production. Stupid me!!

Kevin Lightner · Post by **Kevin Lightner** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:35 am

Boy am I confused.

CEMs *are* out of production.
Moog, nor as far as I know, Studio Electronics doesn't own their rights.
I don't believe SE has licensed any designs from Moog either, but would welcome being set straight, if wrong.

Making a polyphonic analog nowadays costs a fortune.
One either has to design custom chips, do a lot in software (which takes a lot of time and money also) or pile on fairly common ICs, a large power supply and enclosure, along with a high price. There's not much way around this. Either the parts or engineering will cost a lot, no matter how it's conceived and built.
Look at what an Omega 8 runs too.

Moog Beam · Post by **Moog Beam** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:08 pm

Herro,
I believe that the new improved Memorymoog should have those variable waveforms that the Minimoog Voyager has as well. Do not be discouraged by the high price tag...art can cost very little or a whole lot! I believe I would be willing to spend up to, but not over, $8000 for one last great polyphonic analog synth. Think of it as the "swan song" of all that was great about the eighties! You at Moog Music would be heros in ages to come...like that scene from "Artificial Intelligence" where the robot-boy is frozen...it could be like the Memorymoog Voyager was frozen in a different movie, with a different sort of plot; and , granted, a strange screenply...but great! The Memorymoog Voyager would somehow get "unfrozed" and the new evolved alien species that inhabit the earth would get a taste of true analog power and celebrate you all...and perhaps raise Bob Moog (and all of his elvin helpers) back to life so he could build synthesizers for everyone!
I think it would be nice to go all out and throw into the synth Design keyboard split and layering of patches. A weighted keyboard would be nice, along with a very large display(touch screen) with a built in oscilloscope just for fun...like your own Jean Micheal Jarre concert at home. A burnished, black metal would be nice...or silver, walnut or teak wood (maybe cocobolo?) for the trim. Audio inputs are a must along with a fourth oscillator that would be sample based, the waves of which could be scanned like the PPG after they are sampled into the keyboard (plenty of ram).
LFO's? Steps, offsets, invertable, lags, PWM, noise you name it. Think "Korg Prophecy" or "Rhodes Chroma" when it comes to LFO's. Oh, and do not forget the arpeggiator, fully programmable. A ring mod would be very nice as well as AM and FM with dedicated envelopes. The Oscillator section should have: Sine, Triangle, Square, Saw (adjustable saw) and Accordian.
Well...I have to lie down now.

"Dreams have only one owner at a time. That's why dreamers are lonely."
Erma Bombeck

(did I just quote Erma Bombeck?)

Array · Post by **Array** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:38 pm

Kevin Lightner wrote:Boy am I confused.

CEMs *are* out of production.
Moog, nor as far as I know, Studio Electronics doesn't own their rights.
I don't believe SE has licensed any designs from Moog either, but would welcome being set straight, if wrong.

Making a polyphonic analog nowadays costs a fortune.
One either has to design custom chips, do a lot in software (which takes a lot of time and money also) or pile on fairly common ICs, a large power supply and enclosure, along with a high price. There's not much way around this. Either the parts or engineering will cost a lot, no matter how it's conceived and built.
Look at what an Omega 8 runs too.

According to this SoS article:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_ar ... 4/se1.html

The main purpose in life of the SE1, it would seem, is to do everything the Mini could do, under MIDI control, without any of the tuning problems associated with the original instrument. This is achieved due to Studio Electronics licensing of Moog filters, oscillators and VCA. What you hear from the SE1 are the real things -- and Robert Moog was apparently on hand to make sure things turned out as intended.