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unfiltered37
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modular software

Post by unfiltered37 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:34 pm

I am looking to get a moog modular emulator to decide later on if I can implement the ideas I have to decide later on if I want to get a modular, and which modules to get. I looked at the Moog Modular V by arturia, but their modules are fixed, meaning there are only 9 oscillators one FFB, etc. Anyone know of a better solution with user-chosen module layout? Not necessarily Moog emulator, but something with modules that correspond to real modules.

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Re: modular software

Post by thealien666 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:03 pm

I only have a very small modular (mfb Kraftzwerg with a DIY expansion module). But before I bought this, I had played with Arturia's Moog V, and Korg MS-20 software emulator (without the dedicated mini hardware controller mind you).

And since getting a real hardware modular, I've come to realize that half the fun of owning one, is to discover all that you can do with it, and all the "quirks" and things that the software emulators can't reproduce faithfully (especially fast modulation like FM and such). My modular isn't easily expendable unless I start building one that could integrate it. But I can only imagine that one of the biggest thrills of a modular system would also be to discover all that you can do with each new modules added.

So, unless you can get those softwares for cheap (used) I would keep my precious money to buy new real world modules instead.

Anyway, that's only my opinion. TIFWIW.
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Re: modular software

Post by unfiltered37 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:18 pm

I am looking for software that I can use to decide which hardware modules to get for the ideas I have. But I need something where each modular can be duplicated several times. I'm an analog snob, so it's not something I would use for actual recording or playing, just as a tool for determining what I need and don't need.

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Re: modular software

Post by thealien666 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:33 pm

Isn't the fun and surprise of discovering new modules, and all the new things you can do with them, worth waiting to get them ? Unless you intend to use a modular as a musical instrument, rather than an experimentation tool, and have clear ideas on what type of timbres and patches you'd like to create. But even then I've found that, more often than not, software emulators don't necessarily give a good idea of what their hardware counterparts will actually sound like, with the same settings.

To get a very rough idea on what modules could be interesting to buy, perhaps.
My experience with software modulars is pretty limited to Arturia's. I'm not sure that there are ones that let the user configure their own custom virtual modular. I might be wrong about that, hopefully for you.
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Re: modular software

Post by unfiltered37 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:59 pm

I have clear ideas about what I want to do, and want a specific setup of the minimum number of modules. Yes, I love sound exploration, but for modular systems like music, I think you need at least general idea of what you want to do before you start buying gear. For me to just get a general system would be cool, but I learned my lesson from the Voyager + expander modules that I get caught up trying to find the perfect patch rather than making music, which would just be multiplied endlessly with a modular. But even with the minimum of modules, I can still use midi or CV software to get infinite modulation possibilities.

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Re: modular software

Post by Sir Nose » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:53 pm

Nord G2 Engine

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Re: modular software

Post by thealien666 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:08 pm

Sir Nose wrote:Nord G2 Engine
Discontinued, relatively hard to find used and usually expensive (they often sell for between $700 to $1000 on eBay). Plus, not all modules from a modular were emulated. But you could build your own virtual modular system with it, within the limits of the available choice of modules.

There's one currently on there. The auction has just started and will last 6 days. It's at $1 with only one bid, but I'm pretty sure it won't stay at that !
If it could be bought for, let's say, the same price as Arturia's Moog V (around $250), then it could be interesting.
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Re: modular software

Post by e3p0 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:52 am

I don't know if it is a full version but
I just saw this on the evilbay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arturia-Moog-Mo ... 1c267c0c3f

$99 NIB Arturia's Moog V (7 available)

I am broke or I would buy one right now.
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edit: it looks like an old version

I did notice on the company's site you can download a full version with no limitation for a 15 day free trial. An easy way to rule out if you want to spend any money on it.

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Re: modular software

Post by CZ Rider » Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:18 am

Sir Nose wrote:Nord G2 Engine
Yep, I thought there was a demo version of the software editor that acted like a software synth for trying out. Here is the page from Clavia, and the demo is free.
Nord G2 editor demo page
Have not tried the demo myself and can't recommend any software. That stuff usually crashes my old computers. But I do have the old Nord Micromodular, and it works well for trying modular patches. Right now using Atari ST software for MIDI stuff, but that Arturia Moog Modular V does look interesting. Like the idea of being able to save patches on a modular. Wonder how close it sounds to the real deal? :wink:
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Re: modular software

Post by newtoslim » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:21 am

Nord Modular software, in a "trial" version, is available for free and is the best didactic/research tool I have ever seen. Its only limitation by refence to the full nord modular software is that it is monophonic.

Enrico Cosimi wrote his last book about synthesis (1000 pages ...) using just this free tool as a demonstration tool for everything from Fm to complex modular patches.

It is infinitely flexible, and you will be able to clone YOUR modular on it.

It doesn't "sound moog", but this is NOT the point if you later plan to move the patches to a real modular.

Check the clavia website.

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Re: modular software

Post by e3p0 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:32 am

I'm sure anybody reading this would have already read this other thread, but for those receiving updates on this thread, here you go anyway.

June 21 Arturia is giving the original Moog V away June 21.

http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13741

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