I am running Ableton 8.3 on a mac, using a slim phatty. I have never had issues until I moved my studio to and back to my place. What is happening I am not sure. What I do know is that. I can run a normal VST plugin and my midi controller works fine, so the midi controller is fine, the midi interface is fine as well, because it's hooked up via my midi controller.. when i press the button on the play note on the actual slim phatty everything place.. it's just when I try to play a note into ableton, that I get NO SOUND... there is no signal... My hook up is Octacapture interface midi in to midi interface midi out (A) ... then MIDI in (A) into the moog slim phatty midi out, then on my midi interface, I have it hooked up so that my midi in (D) is hooked up to my midi out on my midi controller... that being said, I am running 1/8inch from moog slim phatty THE HEADPHONE JACK to octacapture interface Inputs 7 and 8.... I NEED HELP ON THIS ONE BAD. I have never had an issue like this before... EVER. The midi interface seems to be okay, the audio interface (octacapture) seems to be okay, the moog slim phatty seems to be okay (given i play play the note and it plays, that is just on the sp) and the controller/keyboard works because vst's work???
HELP?!?!?! anyone out there know what could be going on?
This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
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pumpkinfoot
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Re: This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
I gotta be honest... I read this like 3 times and have no idea what your set up is like...
What kind of midi controller do you have? Is it hooked up to your midi interface via midi cables? Or is it connected to the computer with USB?
When you say you dont hear sound in ableton, do you mean that ableton isnt recording or seeing the audio signal from the Slim? Also, the Slim is a mono instrument, so you should only need one audio input on your audio interface.
If you want to record audio into ableton, make sure you have the channel in ableton armed to record (i know, groan, simple)... or that the channel is monitoring if you just want to hear it through your computer speakers.
To record midi (for automation or something), you need the midi out from the slim to the midi input of the audio interface.
Try this, midi controller midi out to slim midi in. Slim midi out to audio interface midi in. You'll have to make sure midi merge is armed in the slim. This should enable ableton to see both the midi controller, and any knob tweaks you make on the slim...
To have ableton trigger the slim, make midi out of your audio interface go to midi in on the controller. You'll have to check the controller to make sure its settings are such that it passes that info to the slim (midi merge) (because you already used up the slim's midi in)...
Your setup sounds confusing. I hope this helps, but im not even sure if i understand your set up correctly.
Cheers
What kind of midi controller do you have? Is it hooked up to your midi interface via midi cables? Or is it connected to the computer with USB?
When you say you dont hear sound in ableton, do you mean that ableton isnt recording or seeing the audio signal from the Slim? Also, the Slim is a mono instrument, so you should only need one audio input on your audio interface.
If you want to record audio into ableton, make sure you have the channel in ableton armed to record (i know, groan, simple)... or that the channel is monitoring if you just want to hear it through your computer speakers.
To record midi (for automation or something), you need the midi out from the slim to the midi input of the audio interface.
Try this, midi controller midi out to slim midi in. Slim midi out to audio interface midi in. You'll have to make sure midi merge is armed in the slim. This should enable ableton to see both the midi controller, and any knob tweaks you make on the slim...
To have ableton trigger the slim, make midi out of your audio interface go to midi in on the controller. You'll have to check the controller to make sure its settings are such that it passes that info to the slim (midi merge) (because you already used up the slim's midi in)...
Your setup sounds confusing. I hope this helps, but im not even sure if i understand your set up correctly.
Cheers
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pumpkinfoot
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Re: This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
i have an M-Audio Axiom, and yes it is hookedup up via midi.... all of it is hooked up by midi, from my audio interface, to my midi interface, to my moog, to my keyboard....
and yes man, i get no signal in the audio track of ableton... when i hit the note on the controller, i get a yellow signal... but in the actual audio track i do not hear anything or get a signal.
i have tried both hookinig up midi in to midi out from the midi interface to the moog and vice versa... i think i am in a rut.
-andy
and yes man, i get no signal in the audio track of ableton... when i hit the note on the controller, i get a yellow signal... but in the actual audio track i do not hear anything or get a signal.
i have tried both hookinig up midi in to midi out from the midi interface to the moog and vice versa... i think i am in a rut.
-andy
Re: This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
I don't know about Ableton, but in Sonar you won't show signal to an audio track unless the track is armed for recording.
You might also check to see that the SP is set to receive on the same MIDI channel as the controller is sending, and that you are echoing MIDI through Ableton.
Really not clear about your MIDI routing. The MIDI I/O on the Octopre should be going to a MIDI device like a keyboard or synth and not through the MIDI I/O on whatever MIDI interface you are using, which you still haven't disclosed.
Also, ditch using the heaphone output from the SP into the Octopre. It's too hot of a source for a line input. Use the mono output on the back of the SP. Set up a mono track in Ableton using whichever input from the Octopre you are patched into. You can pan the mono signal. If you must have a pseudo-stereo effect copy and paste the recorded mono track to another track and pan accordingly. Another option is to set up two MONO audio tracks in Ableton each with the same source off the Octopre and pan accordingly.
You might want to spend some time looking around on Youtube for Ableton tutorials about audio and MIDI routing.
You might also check to see that the SP is set to receive on the same MIDI channel as the controller is sending, and that you are echoing MIDI through Ableton.
Really not clear about your MIDI routing. The MIDI I/O on the Octopre should be going to a MIDI device like a keyboard or synth and not through the MIDI I/O on whatever MIDI interface you are using, which you still haven't disclosed.
Also, ditch using the heaphone output from the SP into the Octopre. It's too hot of a source for a line input. Use the mono output on the back of the SP. Set up a mono track in Ableton using whichever input from the Octopre you are patched into. You can pan the mono signal. If you must have a pseudo-stereo effect copy and paste the recorded mono track to another track and pan accordingly. Another option is to set up two MONO audio tracks in Ableton each with the same source off the Octopre and pan accordingly.
You might want to spend some time looking around on Youtube for Ableton tutorials about audio and MIDI routing.
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Re: This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
Hmm... Ok, are you using the Axiom via USB to the computer? Or are you using external power with Midi Plugs going to the midi/audio interface?
Im not sure about the Axiom, but on the Akai models, when you are hooked up via USB, the Midi Out ports on the controller do not transmit midi data. You have to do all the midi routings in Ableton to get those ports to work. I suspect the Axiom operates the same way, but i dont have time to look up the manual here at work..
I suspect that your routing preferences in Ableton are messed up. Make sure you have the following (this should work if you are seeing yellow midi spikes in Ableton when you hit keys on the controller, and I apologize if you already know this):
On the Midi track that you have receiving midi data from the controller, make sure you have an external instrument plug in on that track. On that plug in, make sure that the "midi to" drop down correctly shows the port that you have outputing to the slim (midi out of the audio/midi interface to the slim midi in, or midi out of the axiom to the slim midi inputs, depending on what you have hooked up). Make sure that the channel that it is talking on (defaults to 1) is the same as you have set up on the Slim. Im not sure about the slim (i have a Little Phatty), but i think there are menu settings for what the slim responds to (USB midi, DIN midi, or Both). Make sure that says either DIN or Both. At this point, you should be able to play a key on the axiom, ableton should still see that little midi blip, which the external instrument should route to one of your midi outputs going to the slim. Use headphones on the slim to make sure you get audio (make sure the volume is turned up and the audio out switch is on). If you get audio, then midi input to the slim is working (yay!). If not, then I have no idea whats wrong with your set up...
Presuming you have audio on the headphones, take the audio out of the slim, plug that into one of your mono audio inputs on the audio/midi interface. Now you can do this two ways, you can set the "external instrument" plug in to listen to the audio input directly, or you can set up another audio track in ableton to listen to the audio from the interface (I prefer the second way so I can multitrack record the synth on different tracks, also makes rendering faster). Lets say you do it the second way... Audio from (EXT IN), then on the next drop down select the channel from your audio interface (make sure on the Ableton audio preferences has that audio input set as mono and not stereo, or else you'll get audio in one side of a stereo connection). At this point, you need either record armed or monitor armed to hear audio through ableton.
Hope this helps... And if not, im more than happy to clarify. Im not sure how used to midi you are, so I apologize if this is stuff you already know)...
Cheers
Im not sure about the Axiom, but on the Akai models, when you are hooked up via USB, the Midi Out ports on the controller do not transmit midi data. You have to do all the midi routings in Ableton to get those ports to work. I suspect the Axiom operates the same way, but i dont have time to look up the manual here at work..
I suspect that your routing preferences in Ableton are messed up. Make sure you have the following (this should work if you are seeing yellow midi spikes in Ableton when you hit keys on the controller, and I apologize if you already know this):
On the Midi track that you have receiving midi data from the controller, make sure you have an external instrument plug in on that track. On that plug in, make sure that the "midi to" drop down correctly shows the port that you have outputing to the slim (midi out of the audio/midi interface to the slim midi in, or midi out of the axiom to the slim midi inputs, depending on what you have hooked up). Make sure that the channel that it is talking on (defaults to 1) is the same as you have set up on the Slim. Im not sure about the slim (i have a Little Phatty), but i think there are menu settings for what the slim responds to (USB midi, DIN midi, or Both). Make sure that says either DIN or Both. At this point, you should be able to play a key on the axiom, ableton should still see that little midi blip, which the external instrument should route to one of your midi outputs going to the slim. Use headphones on the slim to make sure you get audio (make sure the volume is turned up and the audio out switch is on). If you get audio, then midi input to the slim is working (yay!). If not, then I have no idea whats wrong with your set up...
Presuming you have audio on the headphones, take the audio out of the slim, plug that into one of your mono audio inputs on the audio/midi interface. Now you can do this two ways, you can set the "external instrument" plug in to listen to the audio input directly, or you can set up another audio track in ableton to listen to the audio from the interface (I prefer the second way so I can multitrack record the synth on different tracks, also makes rendering faster). Lets say you do it the second way... Audio from (EXT IN), then on the next drop down select the channel from your audio interface (make sure on the Ableton audio preferences has that audio input set as mono and not stereo, or else you'll get audio in one side of a stereo connection). At this point, you need either record armed or monitor armed to hear audio through ableton.
Hope this helps... And if not, im more than happy to clarify. Im not sure how used to midi you are, so I apologize if this is stuff you already know)...
Cheers
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electronicpoison
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Re: This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
look in Ableton in the option than preferences than audio than inputconfiguration,the channel were your SP is in have to be yello
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electronicpoison
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Re: This is a new one. Very new. MIDI Problems
or look in option ,preferences,midi,the midichannels were your SP is in have to be yello