a synth for the little guy

DirtyLarry · Post by **DirtyLarry** » Wed May 25, 2005 1:09 am

oh how i oh so badly desire bob to design a new simpler cheaper in price synth like the prodigy...

Okay im gonna go kill myself now while i try to save up enough money for a voyager (note that I have a car, insurance, a girlfriend, and large debts)

oh how im in woe

writeroxie · Post by **writeroxie** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:09 am

i feel you on this.

why does the voyager have to be $2800!? so awesome, and too new to find a used one

haha

DirtyLarry · Post by **DirtyLarry** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:40 am

until the brains over at moog decide to work on this problem, were up bleep creek without a paddle left with nothing but lame microkorgs and paper mache MG-1's compliments of ebay (not like they're bad, haha)

monads · Post by **monads** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:26 am

DirtyLarry wrote:Okay im gonna go kill myself now while i try to save up enough money for a voyager (note that I have a car, insurance, a girlfriend, and large debts)

Get rid of the girlfriend and you'll have enough to buy a Voyager in no time

Ok, Just kidding. But I hear what you're saying.

suede · Post by **suede** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:19 pm

I hear ya , I wish they made a repro of the model d for $2k retail

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Thu May 26, 2005 1:13 am

writeroxie wrote:i feel you on this.

why does the voyager have to be $2800!? so awesome, and too new to find a used one

haha

Not true at all. It shouldn't be too difficult to find a used Voyager.

endocrine · Post by **endocrine** » Thu May 26, 2005 11:23 am

I think he means a heavily used voyager (ie- lots of roadwear, nicks and scrapes, missing knob caps). You know, stuff that would actually make it less expensive while still keeping the sound the same.
-Tyler2000-

MC · Post by MC » Thu May 26, 2005 1:16 pm

writeroxie wrote:why does the voyager have to be $2800!? so awesome, and too new to find a used one

Here's one that just came up on AH

http://www.retrosynth.com/ah/search/loo ... v0505.1395

writeroxie · Post by **writeroxie** » Fri May 27, 2005 12:53 pm

endocrine wrote:I think he means a heavily used voyager (ie- lots of roadwear, nicks and scrapes, missing knob caps). You know, stuff that would actually make it less expensive while still keeping the sound the same.
-Tyler2000-

haha! exactly!

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Fri May 27, 2005 3:41 pm

But, the Voyager's only two-and-a-half years old. That's not long enough for it to already be worn out. Not even by someone like Emerson, Wakeman, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, or Jan Mammer could do it in such a short time.

LOL!!

miket156 · Post by **miket156** » Fri May 27, 2005 3:58 pm

I was the first one to say that the Voyager was WAY too expensive when it came out. However, a few people that know more about it than I do told me a few things that I didn't know:

Moog is a small company. Apparently, there is a "team" of people that assemble the Voyager, primarily by hand. They put the best quality components they could afford to use in the Voyager in order to make it, and sell it at a profit so they can stay in business. Don't forget that the dealer makes something on the Voyager, or they wouldn't bother selling them. So Moog is not getting 2795.00 for it. (obviously) If I'm not mistaken, the Mini Moog was a lot more expensive when you add inflation to the price back then to what you'd pay for a Voyager today.

Personally, I wouldn't spend 2500 bucks (average selling price) on a Mono synth, Moog or anything else. But that doesn't make the Voyager "overpriced", it just makes it overpriced for what it does in my book.

It's a fine KB, and if you absolutely have to have one, you'll find a way to get the money. I drive a 10 year old Grand Cherokee that's paid for, I live in a 16 year old mobile home that's paid for, I don't buy a lot of clothes, piss away money going bar hopping on weekends, and got rid of the girlfriend. It was harder to justify the money to keep the girlfriend happy than it would be for me to justify buying a Voyager. It's about choices.

Mike T.

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:50 pm

Hi Mike,

That brings something else to mind. Could it be logical to suggest that many people's purchases depend on how much they have at the moment they want, or need something? Let's say that at the moment you want a digital piano you've got $1,500 dollars in your pocket. That buys you a Yamaha P120, but not a P250. By the same token, having $1,200 buys you a Motif ES Rack module, but none of the keyboard models.

Simultaneously, the Sequential Circuits Pro One, Oberheim OB-1, ARP Odyssey, Yamaha CS-15, DSI Evolver, Moog Source and EDP Wasp can all possibly be had for under $1,000 dollars. If that's what you want, that's what you'd get.

But, on the other hand, wouldn't you buy an ARP 2600, if you could get one? They don't price on the used market much higher than the Ninimoog Model D.

The Unknown · Post by **The Unknown** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:19 pm

ebg31 wrote:Ninimoog Model D.

That's almost a Freudian typo!

miket156 · Post by **miket156** » Fri May 27, 2005 6:36 pm

ebg31:

Sure, its logical. If you're gigging musician that plays regurlarly and need to replace something quickly in order to keep your gig, you buy the best you can afford with the money you have at the time. I was in that situation when I was playing actively too. The thing is, if DirtyLarry wants the Voyager bad enough, he's make changes in his priorities and start saving for one. I had surgery last year, and didn't work for a year. I recently went back to work part time, so money is tight. But I want to get a DSI Evolver KB, and I started saving for one as soon as I got my first paycheck. I'm trying to pay down the bills I have to pay, putting off ones I don't have to pay right away, and being careful not to spend money on anything I really don't need. So in 6 weeks working a part time job, I've saved 900 bucks towards the Evolver KB. Granted, I don't have a car or house payment, but that was my point about making choices. In another 6 weeks or so, I will have that Evolver KB, trust me.

Cheers,

Mike T.

gd · Post by gd » Sat May 28, 2005 11:24 am

take a look at the Studio Electronics SE-1 as it was designed to be a "minimoog with midi". They are going in the $700 US range on eBay. I don't own one as I have a Source. The other new mono synth I am looking at picking up is Future Retro's Revolution for its many features.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1994_ar ... 4/se1.html

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