LP OS3?
Re: LP OS3?
I agree; no need for latch disable! Thanks for all the hard work, Amos! I can't wait to use the new OS!
Moog Matriarch, ARP Odyssey MKII, Roland Juno-60, Yamaha DX7, Yamaha VSS-30
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Re: LP OS3?
Amos,
I installed the Beta OS and noticed that the Volume sensitivity was not effecting the HP output. I'm not sure if you intended it to be this way for monitoring, but thought I should let you know.
edit. more problems. I am getting stuck notes while pressing more than 1 key at a time while volume sensitivity is up. This happens every now and then and seems to happen more often with long hard notes.
I installed the Beta OS and noticed that the Volume sensitivity was not effecting the HP output. I'm not sure if you intended it to be this way for monitoring, but thought I should let you know.
edit. more problems. I am getting stuck notes while pressing more than 1 key at a time while volume sensitivity is up. This happens every now and then and seems to happen more often with long hard notes.
LIttle Phatty SEII, Rogue, CP-251, Soldering iron
Re: LP OS3?
Benjaminam: What model LP do you have?
Thanks very much for the bug reports - I'm looking into it now.
Thanks very much for the bug reports - I'm looking into it now.

Re: LP OS3?
Amos, there seem to be problems with code 3.1 and POLYPHONY mode (tested on STAGEII and SLIM):
- ARP doesn't continue playing back after a second note is pressed
- Sometimes both synths play at the same time instead of round-robin.
Thanks, Kami.
- ARP doesn't continue playing back after a second note is pressed
- Sometimes both synths play at the same time instead of round-robin.
Thanks, Kami.
Re: LP OS3?
I can confirm HeadphoneVol Bug (if it is a bug, that is)
No stuck notes here, LP SE I

No stuck notes here, LP SE I

was i pushed or did i fall ?
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Re: LP OS3?
I own a Stage 2. Here is a video I made that documents the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEHhQJvLpI .The stuck note occasionally occurs when Vol Sensitivity is turn up past 0 and two notes are stuck simultaneouslyAmos wrote:Benjaminam: What model LP do you have?
Thanks very much for the bug reports - I'm looking into it now.
LIttle Phatty SEII, Rogue, CP-251, Soldering iron
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I think the stuck notes on Stage / Stage II bug is now fixed. I'm having no problems on my unit.
Also I fixed the volume velocity to headphone output... it was a simple oversight.
Volume velocity sensitivity will never be perfect; it's a bit of a "hack" ... that's why there's a little click when you play a soft note right after a very loud note.
Also, the envelope times can seem different on headphone output vs. the main output.
I recommend to use the main output with volume knob at maximum and adjust your system level accordingly. I don't use the headphone ouput (that's why I hadn't noticed the volume velocity issue)
Cheers,
Amos
(oops) almost forgot to post new links! This is beta 2:
Slim Phatty -
Windows: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/Slim_P ... A2_WIN.zip
Mac: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/Slim_P ... A2_MAC.zip
Little Phatty Stage / Stage II -
Again, this is a beta, update at your own risk, read the instructions carefully, etc...
Windows: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/LP_Sta ... A2_WIN.zip
Mac: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/LP_Sta ... A2_MAC.zip
(if you've already updated, just need to run PhattyLoader from these new files)
Also I fixed the volume velocity to headphone output... it was a simple oversight.
Volume velocity sensitivity will never be perfect; it's a bit of a "hack" ... that's why there's a little click when you play a soft note right after a very loud note.
Also, the envelope times can seem different on headphone output vs. the main output.
I recommend to use the main output with volume knob at maximum and adjust your system level accordingly. I don't use the headphone ouput (that's why I hadn't noticed the volume velocity issue)

Cheers,
Amos
(oops) almost forgot to post new links! This is beta 2:
Slim Phatty -
Windows: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/Slim_P ... A2_WIN.zip
Mac: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/Slim_P ... A2_MAC.zip
Little Phatty Stage / Stage II -
Again, this is a beta, update at your own risk, read the instructions carefully, etc...
Windows: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/LP_Sta ... A2_WIN.zip
Mac: http://seamslikereality.com/moog/LP_Sta ... A2_MAC.zip
(if you've already updated, just need to run PhattyLoader from these new files)
Re: LP OS3?
Hey Amos,
I'm currently running 3.04S 635 on an LPSII.
I just downloaded the Mac update in the message before this one. You mention only needing to run the PhattyLoader but I'm not having any luck with that. I can select my LP USB but it won't receive. On a whim I tried re-loading the bootloader but it seems now I don't even have the FW UPDATE setting on my machine. I'm pretty sure it was there previously. Maybe you got rid of it with v3?
In any case, I can transfer presets back and forth so I know I have communication happening but no PhattyLoader love via USB. Should I try MIDI?
I'm currently running 3.04S 635 on an LPSII.
I just downloaded the Mac update in the message before this one. You mention only needing to run the PhattyLoader but I'm not having any luck with that. I can select my LP USB but it won't receive. On a whim I tried re-loading the bootloader but it seems now I don't even have the FW UPDATE setting on my machine. I'm pretty sure it was there previously. Maybe you got rid of it with v3?
In any case, I can transfer presets back and forth so I know I have communication happening but no PhattyLoader love via USB. Should I try MIDI?
Minimoog Voyager Performer Edition + LP Stage II + Sub37 + Model D reissue + CP-251 + VX-351
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MIDI (vs USB) made no difference. Data definitely being sent but can't seem to get the LP into the mode to receive. Strange as I was able to do it before.
Minimoog Voyager Performer Edition + LP Stage II + Sub37 + Model D reissue + CP-251 + VX-351
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Dumb question maybe but is your Phatty 'listening'?
aka.. You have to power up while holding Master then confirm as instructed.
aka.. You have to power up while holding Master then confirm as instructed.
'76 Minimoog, Taurus 3, Oberheim FVS + Son of 2-voice; Sequential ProOne; Juno 106; Moog Model 15; Kurzweil 250; Hammond M3; and a handful of Fender Basses Flickr!
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@EMwhite - Wow - thanks for that! I don't know how I missed the power-up while holding MASTER but that was the missing mojo for me.
3.1S 648! Here I am.
Thanks again! I owe you one!
3.1S 648! Here I am.
Thanks again! I owe you one!
Minimoog Voyager Performer Edition + LP Stage II + Sub37 + Model D reissue + CP-251 + VX-351
Re: LP OS3?
Amos - one question that I hope to validate tonight if time but will incoming MIDI notes work properly with the volume velocity capabilities as well? I'm assuming yes but thought I would ask. Thanks!
Minimoog Voyager Performer Edition + LP Stage II + Sub37 + Model D reissue + CP-251 + VX-351
Re: LP OS3?
Tricky sometimes. Some devices (and in the case of Phatty, which used to) respond to the first few bytes of a SysEx 'delivery' of code. Patches that are sent in still work this way.earsmack wrote:@EMwhite - Wow - thanks for that! I don't know how I missed the power-up while holding MASTER but that was the missing mojo for me.
3.1S 648! Here I am.
Thanks again! I owe you one!
Others (like the Phatty with the current v1.1 boot loader) must be enabled, start fresh with a 'flash' (erasure) of code NVram, etc.
The loader (the 3.x scheme) is actually the best approach since you cannot inadvertently send the wrong code to the device unless it's listening; also since it flashes the firmware first, it's in a clean state and not doing anything else.
Assuming the Boot loader code is solid, the chances of 'bricking' are slim to none (no pun intended there) because you can ALWAYS boot up into a "ready" safe state with nothing else going on, no other data, etc.
But general advice is to ALWAYS confirm that you have the right interface selected, the right Code version selected, and to choose the right packet size and time between each data block sent (on my Tribute only the slowest/smallest works reliably).
'76 Minimoog, Taurus 3, Oberheim FVS + Son of 2-voice; Sequential ProOne; Juno 106; Moog Model 15; Kurzweil 250; Hammond M3; and a handful of Fender Basses Flickr!
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I agree - got it working now - so far so good. I'm finding I'm liking the volume velocity setting around the 3 setting personally. 8 is a little too sensitive for me.
Minimoog Voyager Performer Edition + LP Stage II + Sub37 + Model D reissue + CP-251 + VX-351