RME owners ever wish you'd got a keyboard or viceversa, WHY?

Tips and techniques for Minimoog Analog Synthesizers

RME or Keyboard

Voyager RME
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Voyager Keyboard
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Post by Paul Norheim » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:53 pm

Re. MIDI keyboard: Sorry, I forgot that you said you have the Little Phatty.
The disadvantage of the LP keyboard is that it doesn't have aftertouch (I think). The huge advantage, however, is that you would also have a duo-phonic synth.

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Post by sharkbarf » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:09 pm

Thanks u guys this is really helpful for me!

What kind of stuff happens when I "experiment w/voltages"

my ideal situation is to get something so powerful that I struggle to get my brain around it, taking me years to figure out. Like a puzzle.
Getting in to synthesis has had this puzzle effect.

Now that I've learned the LP the Voyager will make more scince, but now I'm finding out about all these add ons....Will it ever end?

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Post by Paul Norheim » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:21 pm

If you haven't seen it yet, this may interest you too:

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Post by anoteoftruth » Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:08 pm

To reply to your first post,

I have the RME and a LP, and I absolutely love the combination.. The LP is setup in such a way that it really is easy to control the Voyager with.. it's pretty much plug and play.. you can just hook it up to midi, and everything works. mod/pitch/octave control etc. It's great.

And imo, the RME and LP really are 2 different machines with 2 different sounds. If your more interested in designing sounds, in creating your own, unique sounds.. I think it's great to have them both, as both bring something different to the table for sounscapes etc.

Consider the price difference or the RME too... I'm not sure if your looking to buy used or new... but I got mine from a friend who kept it in great condition for 1600$ ... since then I've even seen it online for 1300$ in US ebay. There are definately deals out there for the RME's. Not many people are willing to sell a full keyboard version of the Voyager for that little, and mostly your gonna pay more than double than that for one.

I just figure with what I saved, I could buy another synth. A SEM perhaps.

Whatever you do, your gonna end up with a Voyager, which is awesome. So goodluck!
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Re: RME owners ever wish you'd got a keyboard or viceversa,

Post by dingebre » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:57 pm

sharkbarf wrote:I really wanted an Voyager but didn't have the money so got an LP.

Now I know I MUST get a voyager. but the question is: does it matter which one?

I've been thinking about getting a RME and controlling it with my LP, but I'm reluctant as if there is something holding me back.

Have you ever wished you had just bought a Voyager keyboard?

I'm wondering if The RME is a little excessive with the LP, like I'll just end up selling the LP. Or maybe they are two different machines and I'll love both???

Please help me make a decision. I'm about ready for the purchase
I first bought an RME, but was disappointed with I realized it didn't have the touch controller surface (fine, I didn't do my due diligence. :) ). While you can get inputs for an external surface via the VX352, it's not the same. I would highly recommend you spend the extra and get the keyboard. I finally broke down and have one of each now, which is also very cool.

You can get duophony using the LP and either the RME or keyboard, too.

The LP and RME are two different machines, however, you can probably do anything the LP does on the Voyager, but not vice-versa.

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Post by EricK » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:37 pm

Well in addition to what was already mentioned, the RME will have a selectable filter pole (greatest feature), whereas the LP has the filter overdrive.

The Voyager wins out with the extra osc but just narrowly due to the Phatty's Arpeggiator so with each unit there is some give or take. But once you throw in the extended range of the keybed (a much nicer feeling keybed than the original stage 1 phatty I played on at the store) and the touchscreen, the Voyager scoots a bit ahead of the Phatty in a race of features, to take home the gold with the Knob-per-function interface.


These make both of the instruments individually desirable and together totally desirable.

I think I would prefer though to have a full keyboard voyager and a rack mount LP for these features and for cheaper polyphony.


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I should just buy both-haha

Post by sharkbarf » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:10 am

Every piece of equipment has its own qualities. I get that. I quess I'll just slow down...end up buying both...in time...probly...have a couple RME's for my LP and a couple RME's for my Voyager...





Seriously!!!!

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Post by peterkadar » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:36 pm

I had the RME and I loved it. I had to sell it for financial reasons, but yeah, they're great, and they work really well with the LP.

Good luck!

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Post by peterkadar » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:39 pm

Oh, I remember the other thing I was going to say...

The RME has everything self contained... less hardware, less stuff to go wrong down the road ie key contacts, touchscreen etc.

Not that that should be a huge issue anyway, because Moog makes stuff really well, but something to think about nonetheless...

I would feel very secure bringing the RME in a case to a gig. I'd be worried about someone banging into a Voyager keyboard. This is why I stopped bringing my Prophet '08 SE to gigs. I'm planning to get a Tetra instead...

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Post by anoteoftruth » Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:05 pm

peterkadar wrote:I had the RME and I loved it. I had to sell it for financial reasons, but yeah, they're great, and they work really well with the LP.

Good luck!
For some reason I think I have your previous one now. Was it #0049? Call me crazy if not. Just a hunch.
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Post by CTRLSHFT » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:16 pm

EricK wrote:Well in addition to what was already mentioned, the RME will have a selectable filter pole (greatest feature), whereas the LP has the filter overdrive.
Just to clarify, LP has 1/2/3/4 pole filtering too...
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Post by peterkadar » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:02 am

anoteoftruth wrote:
peterkadar wrote:I had the RME and I loved it. I had to sell it for financial reasons, but yeah, they're great, and they work really well with the LP.

Good luck!
For some reason I think I have your previous one now. Was it #0049? Call me crazy if not. Just a hunch.
No, you have the one a friend of mine was slated to get in Toronto. He put it on hold, and it was supposed to go to him, but they made a mistake at L&M, and ended up shipping it out to a customer in Edmonton. I assume that would be you, because the timing is right.

At the same time that this happened, I was waaaay late getting paid for some gigs and college work, so I sold him my RME for about what I had paid for it, knowing I'd get another one someday. I still have the rack case, and the two VX boxes in their rack case as well.

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Post by EMwhite » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:24 am

sharkbarf wrote:Thanks u guys this is really helpful for me!

What kind of stuff happens when I "experiment w/voltages"

my ideal situation is to get something so powerful that I struggle to get my brain around it, taking me years to figure out. Like a puzzle.
Getting in to synthesis has had this puzzle effect.

Now that I've learned the LP the Voyager will make more scince, but now I'm finding out about all these add ons....Will it ever end?
It won't ever end.

I had the same dilemma (bought the Phatty first because of the $$; wanted an original Model D MiniMoog but there were 3,000+ on eBay in good shape)

When it came time to buy the next piece of gear, I found the 'open box' RME on eBay for < $2k but after some soul searching and with the help of many here, I bought the Old School and don't regret it one bit.

It's really taught me alot about Analog synths, is an absolutely beautiful machine, tons of utility with all of the 1/4" on the back and I subsequently added a 351.

Knowing me, if I bought the Voyager (didn't have the money at the time anyway), I would spend most of my time flicking around among the 100's of patches rather than learning how to play.

And I can get Midi into my Old School via the Mutlipedal (not that I've had the need for that).

Together the two represent a powerhouse of everything old and new with Moog.

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Post by EricK » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:06 pm

CS,
Thanks for the clarification.

EM,
What I want to do is to dump my entire bank of presets and have 896 users. I think after awhile, youd get to a point where you would neglect the presets and start from scratch each time.


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Post by superd2112 » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:00 pm

peterkadar wrote:Oh, I remember the other thing I was going to say...
I would feel very secure bringing the RME in a case to a gig. I'd be worried about someone banging into a Voyager keyboard. This is why I stopped bringing my Prophet '08 SE to gigs. I'm planning to get a Tetra instead...
That makes 2 of us - I plan on getting a used Tetra for just that reason. We're adding "Tom Sawyer" to our set list, and I really don't want to drag my Prophet '08 through the clubs for just one song. The factory DSI Tom Sawyer patch in the '08 & the Tetra rules - closest thing I've ever heard for replicating the famous Oberheim "growl" sweeping sound. I don't mind taking my Phatty to gigs - it's a tough little beastie, but the Prophet seems fairly delicate by comparison.

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