Unsure what to buy...

aaronh · Post by **aaronh** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:21 am

eric, thanks very much for that post. the reasons i was unsure about buying the expanders was that for the past year or so, i thought that these expanders DO have the ability to control other external CV gear, but with just the two of them they can also work together to open up other magical routing techniques and sounds.
after searching forums and reading posts i became a bit unsure as to what they could do. Id say im pretty experienced in the world of synthesis.. I have two VA's and one analogue synth but only now am i getting into CV/Moog. Fingures crossed that i get the RME this week or next.

again eric, i dont think you could have put that post any more clearer (it should be stickie'd somewhere for beginners like myself).. and u can bet that i'll be in the market for the expanders plus some moogerfoogers soon enough

happy new year to all

cheers!

Klopfgeist · Post by **Klopfgeist** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:26 am

If you have the Voyager and both expanders as your only cv gear, it does still open up new routing possibilities (i.e. routing lfo's to volume or envelope gate), but these are very limited compared to if you had just the Voyager inputs and other non-voyager cv gear.

EricK · Post by **EricK** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:42 am

Thanks for the kind words, its my pleasure to help, if I can help.

It would make your world a LOT easier if you could afford a Performer or OS Voyager (inputs included.) If you already know a lot about synthesis then I might try to lean more towards how I could externalize those voltages within the voyager until I could afford the input expander.

Try Novamusik.com and email them for their prices. They have fabulous deals. I got my Voyager select and Vx351 brand new for 2999.

I think that it has been such in the past that people buy something that they really don't know a lot about and then think that it sucks because they got the wrong stuff. Rick Wakeman told a story about how he got a Minimoog from a guy who thought it was broken because it played one note only. I don't want this to happen to ANYONE with a Moog.

With those 2 expanders you definately can control other CV gear, and they will interface, but I don't think those two particular expanders are going to make you think you spent your money wisely.

A cp251 would be a good place to start, with either VX unit and a Fooger.

With a cp251 and vx 351 and ring mod or phaser, you can have an audio processor AND an extra oscillator.

With a cp251 and a Vx352 and ringmod/phaser, you can use the LFO's from the ringmod to a destination on the voyager, or use the ringmod in the audio chain and modulate it with the 251.

If you can squeeze in a cp, vx 352 and a Fooger, that would probably keep you really happy until you got a vx351. That would also give you some more flexibillity on which fooger you chose. The fooger selection is not so critical at that point. You would use the CP to modulate either the voyager or the fooger, so you wouldn't feel so terrible that you can't externalize the voyagers voltages because you would already have some.

My two pisos and a ruble.

Klopfgeist · Post by **Klopfgeist** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:48 am

Rick Wakeman told a story about how he got a Minimoog from a guy who thought it was broken because it played one note only. I don't want this to happen to ANYONE with a Moog.

I do, because then I can take it from him!

mayidunk · Post by **mayidunk** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:59 am

The VX-352 gives your RME all of the CV and expression pedal inputs that the standard Voyager already has built into it. Therefore, an RME with the VX-352 becomes functionally the same as a standard Voyager, minus the keyboard and the Touch Screen controller. Adding the VX-351 to the mix then becomes the next decision.

I personally love having the VX-351 in my Voyager Performer set-up. I do loop CVs back to the Voyager, as the Mod. Buss selections don't always have what I'm looking for. And though I may not always use it, it's good to know that the VX-351 is there when I need it.

However, $650 for both the VX-351 and the VX-352 isn't cheap! So, as Erik has recommended, you might want think about what you want to do with your synth first, and then decide what modules you'll need to buy in order to make it happen.

Enjoy, and welcome to the forum!

Bob

aaronh · Post by **aaronh** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:06 pm

Arrived today just as i got in the door.
ive lost 3 hours already.

oh my god.

mayidunk · Post by **mayidunk** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:41 pm

And another one bites the dust...

BTByrd · Post by **BTByrd** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:11 pm

My CP-251 arrived today. I'm hoping to snag that VX-351 that's for sale here on the forum. Combined that will have been under $500. And then I'm going to rack them and use them to interface my Voyager with one of these:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr09/i ... lay_07.jpg

I fear I may have developed an unhealthy obsession with voltage control.

mayidunk · Post by **mayidunk** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:25 pm

Oh my, but that's pretty!

Klopfgeist · Post by **Klopfgeist** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:31 pm

Wow, that things really cool! Hopefully my VX-351 and my fooger rack shelves arrive today.