rack voyager official!!!voyager RME.

[SirZebrathe9th]

I guess that cheap sticker on the side makes it limited?

Hey, its called a badge, thank you very much

I think Moog needs to stop milking the Voyager train and make something brand new. Now i dont mean like the piano bar, etc. But a new synth. Expand the line a little bit, have some different price ranges.

[ClockWorkOrange]

Why no word of these things here at moogs website ? very strange getting this info from other forums.. it certainly is their right, but strikes me as odd.. hope they put the pix here first at least.

[SirZebrathe9th]

they're probably waiting for namm or something to unveil em

[suthnear]

i reckon they should bring out a new moogerfooger with an oscillator in.that would be a cheaper way to add polyphony rather than having to keep buying more voyager racks which could be cumbersome and pricey.

An extra oscillator doesn't add to your polyphony unfortunately. You would need at least another filter and vca in order to have proper articulation of each voice and, more importantly, you would need some means of allocating notes between them. All an mf oscillator would do is allow you to treat the voyager as a 4 osc mono synth.

[Qwave]

... Moog has disappointed the customers who bought the "limited edition" since it's no more unique or collectible than a current model - unless of course you like black, which probably most people would prefer the wood-grain model over.

And the realy unique backlit lables of the front plate? Name my any other synth featuring this. No other Moog got this. No other synth I know is close to this.

[MFenkner]

"And the realy unique backlit lables of the front plate? Name my any other synth featuring this. No other Moog got this. No other synth I know is close to this."

That backlit labels is what I'm referring to. "The Electric Blue is housed in an ash cabinet with a fractal blue finish and the electric blue backlit front panel." The Anniversary Edition is described by Moog as "featuring an electric blue back-lit legends" so it seems that they're the same thing except for the cabinet finish.

I'm curious as to what the "fractal blue finish" will look like. It sounds better than black to me

Regarding the comment about the sticker being called a badge, a sticker is defined as "an adhesive label" whereas a badge is "any feature that is regarded as a sign of status". Though Moog wants you to believe the later to make it more attractive and to make the buyer feel special, there's no denying it's still just an "adhesive label"

Mark

[monads]

I really hoped they would pull the anniversary and not try to repackage it as "Electric Blue"? Come on, isn't this why we all bought the anniversary? That's like releasing the 600 Signatures "limited" coming back and releasing "The new Voyager Autograph. Now all Voyagers feature the same autograph as signatures but engraved in the panel! Get one now!"

I would rather see them continue with the performer and expand the line. Something new. Alot of RD already went into the Voyager. I would expand on that. Maybe they don't want to take the risk but it seems to me greater potential for sales from repeat customers if something new was hashed.

I wonder if they fixed the filter tracking the portamento/glide issue that poped up awhile back on the board with our Voyagers.

[MC]

I'm curious as to what the "fractal blue finish" will look like. It sounds better than black to me

Just Google for "fractal blue" click on images and you'll see a world of fractal blue finishes.

Regarding the comment about the sticker being called a badge, a sticker is defined as "an adhesive label" whereas a badge is "any feature that is regarded as a sign of status".

A label/sticker implies a paper product. A badge is a metal product, like a law enforcement badge. The Moog 50th anniversary badge is a round metal product with contoured surfaces on its face, much like a minted coin and a police officer badge. End of argument.

I thought Moog Music was above playing the cheap marketing game of hyping a product as being a limited edition, only to come out with the same model the following year.

The "cheap marketing game" of limited editions did no harm to Paul Reed Smith, Gibson, Fender, Korg, Yamaha, Kurzweil (2600 in oak case), Ford/Chrysler/GM, Apple computers (black U2 iPods), Rolex, Tiffany glassworks, Oneida/Gorham silver, Lenox fine china, Monopoly and other popular games, DVDs, CDs, ok I'll stop here. Point is, it is a viable business method. Has been for hundreds of years. And the FTC or your state BBB show no sign of condemning the practice.

I guess they figured people wouldn't fall for the same scam twice.

As long as we're arguing semantics over badges/stickers, let's see how this fits the definition of a "scam"

from http://www.dictionary.com:

scam n. A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.

If people pay money for a limited edition and they get a product in return that conforms to the specified product, then it isn't fraud. Swindle is defined as "to cheat or defraud of money or property". No one is being cheated of their money or their property. Customers get a product in return for money. There is no scam or swindle here. Move along, nothing to see here. And you lament the loss of honesty in Moog Music over limited edition products?

Therefore your argument is flawed. You stand alone condemning a business practice that has been legitimate for hundreds of years. If you don't agree with the idea of limited edition Voyagers, then you don't have to buy one. It's a free market. End of argument.

[MW]

Hey, if it helps keep Moog Music in business so that they can continue to bring us new products, who cares if they slap together a Minimoog out of cheddar cheese and call it the Mini-moo (g)?

Anyway, no matter how fancy they tart up subsequent Voyagers, my trusty Performer model in boring old oak is the most beautiful model of all. And I play the heck out of the little beast every chance I get.

-Mark

[SirZebrathe9th]

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Regarding the comment about the sticker being called a badge, a sticker is defined as "an adhesive label" whereas a badge is "any feature that is regarded as a sign of status".


A label/sticker implies a paper product. A badge is a metal product, like a law enforcement badge. The Moog 50th anniversary badge is a round metal product with contoured surfaces on its face, much like a minted coin and a police officer badge. End of argument.

When I said that it was a badge not a sticker this was only a joke people, no need to argue semantics, because it doesnt matter. This damn internet just eats jokes like they were delicious tacos, so i dont blame anyone...

That being said:

There's nothing wrong with several limited editions at all. If you think about it, Moog probably wont make instruments for ever until the end of time (but who knows?), so any Moog product can be considered "special or collectible" Its just depends on your perspective. Its their prerogative to do whatever they think will be profitable in the long run. Its a business and thats how businesses stay around. Would you rather they Release one special edition and do such things as to not encourage people to buy their stuff, and possibily end the business? Then you wouldnt have the support of the staff and you definitely will never ever get a brand new synth.

And that brings me to another point. Who cares if they keep releasing products that maybe make your Voyager "less" special in your eyes? These things were meant to be used and played, not talked about in this manner. Does everyone only care about the return on their investment, and not the hours of enjoyment they get out of it? Did you only buy based on the supposed limitedness of the cosmetics and not on the sweet, juicy insides? There are thousands of Moogs out there all being played and enjoyed, regardless of color and whatnot. Let me all remind you its whats on the inside that counts, and as far as that goes everyone with a Voyager is exactly the same. We all can theoretically get the same sounds with it so who cares? Is this really important in the long run?

The Looks of anything should be secondary. Form follows function, right? Yeah the Backlit panel looks sweet. But anyone who has a gooseneck lamp can acheive sort of the same thing. I think that is a cool feature. Are we all forgeting that? You with the Backlitness all have this too. The Gooselamp also doeant add any hiss or humm either,by the way. Very functional. So everyone can turn knobs in the dark and be like everyone else, regardless of edition.

All you who bought anniversary or signatures all have something unique whether you think so or not. For that matter so do all the performer owners. I dont understand all this bitterness as we all have something special. why all this: "Oh my Voyager is MORE special than yours", nonsense? You could not even own a voyager, so be thankful that you're priviledged enough to own one. I mean come on, thousands of people died in a tsumani and thousands more are suffering because of it. Theyre not complaining obout badges and black paint. Is this really so important?

And to bring this back on topic, i think the rack is a cool idea, I might just get one when i sell my voyager.
But i still want to see a new synth from moog soon.

[The Unknown]

You're absolutely right... But my AE in maple is still the best Voyager of all, because it's mine!

[elirentz]

Par for the course they did the same with the signature addition. barring the signature and low serrial # there's nothing unique about it for $1000. It would be cool if moog would make more new products besides watches belt buckles and rehashes of the only synth they make. But its their business who am I to complain.

[DW]

There is more than a signature and a low serial number on the Sig. Editions:

Signature Edition instruments have these distinguishing features:

* Hand-finished cabinet in your choice of genuine solid maple (light), cherry (honey-colored), or walnut (brown).
* Illuminated, clear acrylic Pitch Bend and Modulation wheels
* Gold-plated nameplate
* Padded Gig Bag
* Four-year warranty, with two free factory tunings.
* A specific low serial number is assigned to each order.
* Every Signature Edition Instrument is individually inspected and signed by Bob Moog.

Additionally, a gooseneck lamp is included.

[Boeing 737-400]

Yes, but the lit Pitch and Mod wheels, gig bag and lamp can be bought seperately anyway.

[MC]

OK, the news release says that all of the Voyager front panel controls (except the touchpad) are on the front panel of the RME.

How did he get all of them to fit on a rack panel? When I look at the panel on my Voyager, it would be too wide even without the touchpad. Did he reduce the knob sizes and the panel in proportion...?

I'll know next week when I go to NAMM.