monophonic keyboard chops

[jeepo]

I love the idea of the joystick, i played a korg with one a while ago, and was able to achieve control pitch and filter with one finger, something i am not very good at with my phatty lhc, even using my whole hand, which leads me to a new idea, a unit with five joysticks, designed such that one can control all five joystick simultaneously. is there such a thing as too much lhc?

[Lux_Seeker]

I like joysticks to. I have one on my Korg M3 which also has a small ribbon controller directly below and two user assignable switches above. The joystick can modulate as many parameters as the user wants using not two but the four directions. The X axis is usually pitch, the Y modulation and the ribbon controller is filter cutoff for many patches.

Of course, most joysticks go back to center on release including the M3 although I think you can freeze the position with the one of the toggle switches but that is not really the same thing.

Multiple joysticks might be nice although they would be more useful if they had the option of not returning to zero.

For multiple parameters the M3 uses slider. It gives you real time control over 8 parameters (actually more if you consider it has several modes) but they are not tied together as in a joystick.

Rather than multiple joysticks I would love to see a joystick that provides some sort of tactile feeback such as resistance or even variable levels of vibration as well as being sensitive to pressure perhaps even in zones depending on different parts of the joystick.

This makes it more like an instrument. I find controlling multiple parameters on the M3 somewhat confusing even though Korg has done a good job of trying to standardize between patches for the sliders.

I personally would like to see many different controllers that control multiple parameters but based on gesntures. I play guitar and while I have many techniques for effecting timbre, I am leven thinking in terms of multiple parameters but only a single gesture. Technology is starting to get there with the K-Bow and now the Eigenharp and certainly Moog with the Moog Guitar. I think the sky is the limit her but the companies have to be convinced that its marketable.

[EricK]

Well theres also NE NW SE and SW positions.

[Lux_Seeker]

Or up and down, now that would be interesting. Imagine suspending a large joystick that you can hold with springs so it can move up and down, another degree of freedom.

[EricK]

Hendrix actually wanted to have sound move up and down in his mix and front to back.

[Electrong]

Respectfully,
Eric

Woah there, Auntie Henrietta wonders how your DISrespectful statements read..

stick to comments on instruments,

and you will avoid retorts.

Yes Miss Manners..

[ozy]

I find controlling multiple parameters on the M3 somewhat confusing even though Korg has done a good job of trying to standardize between patches for the sliders.

hu. I'd like to know if you got deep into the M3 use as a control surface.

I tried using the M3 sliders as controllers for the DSI analogs, and just gave up after a while ("a while" being two months, not two hours).

WAY too much data output from the m3 and too little editing capabilities in its menus.

I.e:

I generated a "filter cutoff" control, and got the receiving synth all messed up (OSCs drifting and the lik). Since analogs mostly have limited or no selective midi filtering capabilities, there's no way of asking the analog to not listen to odd midi messages.

"midi solutions" boxes are wonderful... at 150 bucks a channel

The digital and more recent machine should have such filtering capabilities.

The M3 hasn't.

Or am I stupid?

I'd like to know what you did.

(PS: pls consider that I don't and won't use a computer. The M3 is my "thing that goes digital in the dark", my only concession to menus. Maybe it's just that I believed them when they said "it's a computer, compared to your other stuff" . I think it's more of a refrigerator, compared to my other stuff... )

PPSS: what if I had REALLY believed them, and bought the Oasys?!? 3000 more bucks = a new moog

[ozy]

oh: I read all comments about the joystick idea.

Thanks for the comments, plenty of performance ideas. Hope moog listens.