(1 minute tune) Comparison between digital and analog Synths

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(1 minute tune) Comparison between digital and analog Synths

Post by psicolor » Thu May 14, 2009 10:29 am

I fetched my quasimidi sirius and tried to compare it with my voyager.
The Sirius has a very cool builtin drummachine, but the Synthsounds are very cold and metallic. I'm shure that you guess which of the sound is made digitally and which is analog.

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Post by Voltor07 » Thu May 14, 2009 11:59 am

Drums are digital, the first synth sound is digital, the second synth sound is analog. Am I right?
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Post by Analog! » Thu May 14, 2009 10:13 pm

I am agreeing with Voltor. Both of the synths sound cool, but if we are correct, you can't recreate the beauty of the moog.
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Post by dave500 » Thu May 14, 2009 10:45 pm

Very nice.
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Post by psicolor » Fri May 15, 2009 11:44 am

Very, VERY impressive answers! :D
Voltor07 wrote:Drums are digital, the first synth sound is digital, the second synth sound is analog. Am I right?
The Drums are digital, yes, but with the synths it's vice versa. The first sound is the voyager, the second is the sirius!

For me, the second synth sounds very cold and especially the high frequencies are badly distorted for my taste! But your answers tell me, that the difference between both techniques is not mainly related to the sound....

I don't really know what this means, but your answers make me very meditative
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Post by psicolor » Fri May 15, 2009 11:57 am

Very difficult topic, but i decided to ignore your answers and to prefer the moog. ;) Just because i spend about 3000 EUR ... and the voyager looks much better :D

Pure Moog again:
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Post by Voltor07 » Fri May 15, 2009 11:58 am

psicolor wrote:Very, VERY impressive answers! :D
Voltor07 wrote:Drums are digital, the first synth sound is digital, the second synth sound is analog. Am I right?
I don't really know what this means, but your answers make me very meditative
It means that Mac Book speakers are CRAP! :evil:


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Post by Voltor07 » Fri May 15, 2009 12:00 pm

psicolor wrote:Very difficult topic, but i decided to ignore your answers and to prefer the moog. ;) Just because i spend about 3000 EUR ... and the voyager looks much better :D

Pure Moog again:
http://www.psicolor.de/music/Psicolor_-_loop3.mp3
Yeah, that's DEFINITELY Voyager. 8)
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Post by jon_kull » Fri May 15, 2009 5:40 pm

Voltor07 wrote:It means that Mac Book speakers are CRAP! :evil:
I listened through monitors and like you still though the wrong synth was the Moog. :oops:

It could be the effects. When I had a Kurzweil there were a couple instances where I thought I was playing the Voyager but was actually playing a Moog patch on the K2600. They sounded similar because they were both running through the same digital effects.
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Post by Analog! » Sat May 16, 2009 1:41 am

wow, i had the 2 switched around. interesting.
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Analog versus digital continued

Post by alainhubert » Sat May 16, 2009 6:44 pm

While we're on the subject, I've recently programmed a Taurus-like Bass sound on the Voyager. I've carefully reproduced the same patch on my Alesis Ion.

In this audio sample, I manually play a short sequence of notes on one synth, then the same thing on the other synth. At the end I play one note on one synth, then the same note on the other.

Can you tell which synth is playing when?

Synths used: Alesis Ion and Moog Voyager EB.

This audio sample has been recorded live into Audition in one shot with no effects or anything else, just the two synths.

http://FileHost.JustFreeSpace.Com/977TaurusPatchIV.wav
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Post by MarkM » Sat May 16, 2009 7:32 pm

Hard to tell but I'm going with #2 as the Moog. I have an Ion, and it is a very flexible synth. It does a very nice Moog emulation.
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Post by Dazz » Sun May 17, 2009 6:16 am

It's not a completely fair listening test:

you should play the bassline alternatively with the Moog and the other one, as well as the melody: than you will certainly hear the difference...
It's confusing now because the synths both play different melodic material.
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Post by psicolor » Sun May 17, 2009 7:28 am

Dazz wrote:It's not a completely fair listening test
That's true. I just wanted to make music, the comparison was more likely a side-effect. But I really want to make a "scientific" comparison, because if you're standing in front of both synths and play with them, the difference is dramatic!
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Re: Analog versus digital continued

Post by Voltor07 » Sun May 17, 2009 12:42 pm

alainhubert wrote:While we're on the subject, I've recently programmed a Taurus-like Bass sound on the Voyager. I've carefully reproduced the same patch on my Alesis Ion.

In this audio sample, I manually play a short sequence of notes on one synth, then the same thing on the other synth. At the end I play one note on one synth, then the same note on the other.

Can you tell which synth is playing when?

Synths used: Alesis Ion and Moog Voyager EB.

This audio sample has been recorded live into Audition in one shot with no effects or anything else, just the two synths.

http://FileHost.JustFreeSpace.Com/977TaurusPatchIV.wav
Hmm..really tough. I'm guessing the last note in the recording is Ion.
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