voyager sucks at sequencing

elirentz · Post by **elirentz** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:30 pm

Just started trying to sequence some basslines. I've read the previous posts and turned down the release and fiddled with the envelope settings and triggering modes. The voyager does something different every other measure. It will leave out notes or play one note over where two should be. I f it didn't change its response each time the same pattern comes around I would think something else. But now as it is I'm thinking about selling the voyager. a new $3,000 synth should be able to sequence simple basslines with no problem.I know many of you will say that that's not what the voyager is best at but still the soundas I've heard, from myself and others, have been barely more inspiring than other cheaper synths and now I find that its terrible at sequencing. Anybody else find a way around the triggering problems?

suthnear · Post by **suthnear** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:23 am

My simple answer: no, it doesn't. My voyager can play really fast basslines and never miss a note. Fiddling with the various triggering modes does exactly what I expect them to do. Please confirm that you have followed the advice I gave here:

http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=788

If that doesn't work please report back.

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:58 pm

AND how DARE you say ANYTHING bad about the Voyager in THIS forum. What are you some sort of anarchist??? A spy planting LIES to tarnish the gleaming beauty of the GREATEST synthisizer EVER created???

Why don't you go back digital Iraq...

They have a place for FLAME warriors like you. It's called the Gas Station.

elirentz · Post by **elirentz** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:46 pm

I can say that because I bought at 12:30 the night it was released for sale on the big briar site. I'm not completely bashing the synth I didn't have time to write all of what I think about it. In fact I would recomend a voyager to a certain type of player, but not one like me. I'm glad to hear that some of you can get fast basslines because that tells me it could either be something with my synth or sequencer. I was just so frustrated from working for hours to try to get it to play two 1/16 notes in a row and trigger properly. I mean it would trigger properly every other time and I had one measure on a loop trying to get it to trigger correctly.
And as for what I said about not as inspiring, maybe I came into the deal expecting too much, I mean for it to sound as rich as some of those old moog solos, and the fact is I haven't heard that out of a voyager yet, either mine or on recordings. That being said I think it is a good sounding synth but not what I expected and not what I need. It is nice to have if you have an adequate setup and need something to fill that niche that only it can fill. Sorry to make it seem so hateful it wasn't intended that way.

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:51 pm

Oh...It's cool.

donato · Post by **donato** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:47 pm

What are you using specifically to sequence it? As far as sounds go, maybe you need to spend more time programing it? Maybe not, but I find If I spend some time I can pretty much find what I'm looking for within it's range.

donato · Post by **donato** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:47 pm

Or at least what I "think" is in its range.

Cruel Hoax · Post by **Cruel Hoax** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:23 am

What sequencer are you using? Would you be willing to post MIDI files and patch info? Maybe we can duplicate the problem (confirming weirdness) or help to eliminate it.

-Hoax

Demokid · Post by **Demokid** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:08 am

I have not problem playing fast sequences on my MMV AE. I use Cubase SX and E-magic MT-4 USB MIDI interface. I agree with Cruel Hoax it must be something with your MIDI set up. What kind of sequencer are you using, hardware or software? Are you using a MIDI interface if so which? How long MIDI cables are you using? Latest drivers for MIDI interface, sound card, graphic card…
My friend has an MMV PSE and he had some problems with stuck notes and timing instability. It turned out to be his fast but crappy Siemens portable computer and the USB MIDI interface.

Regards
Demokid

suthnear · Post by **suthnear** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:58 am

elirentz - did you or did you not try my suggestion?

If you don't like the sound of it sell it and move on. But if you're going to slag it off for something that wortks fine for others, let's at least see if we can sort your problem out...

dizz · Post by **dizz** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:59 pm

I use an analog sequencer and have no problems at all. Not sure how SW sequencers react but the analog sequencer is especially cool because the pitch can be just a hair off sometimes. I'm not sure if that's the sequencer or the Moogs oscillators but it sounds great.

regards,

dizz

conanliquid · Post by **conanliquid** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:04 am

Have you turned "local" off on the voyager?

elirentz · Post by **elirentz** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:46 pm

I was, at the time using my machinedrum as the sequencer, my sound card and cubase aren't playing friendly right now. I've been away for awhile and haven't gotten to try your suggestions, but will tonight. Thanks for the replies.

base1001 · Post by **base1001** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:03 am

if you are starting with no detail like this included pic, then the notes will not playback effectively. use the zoom tool, powerful function. go to the note with a lot of flags! and you will be able to adjust your sequence accodingly, the voyager is great at sequencing! if you have cubase then this should not be a problem i am guesing, being that i have heard of cubase having a drum editor of some sort. I use dp4 atm.

here are some pics.

NO!(use the zoom and 64th notes to sequence)

Detail w/ zoom(exact same sequence with detail)

notes

i use the hightlighted one to draw in notes for the voyager, this is the best way for myself, everyone is different, i am going to teh store, i hope this helps.

base1001 · Post by **base1001** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:13 am

if the above pics don't help then use this one.