Connecting two voyagers

prizmatic · Post by **prizmatic** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:29 am

I don't why I never tried before but today I thought I would hook my two voyagers together and have some two note polyphony hapenning but I cant get it to work. It sort of worked for a while but then just hangs all the time.

I tried playing one from the other and I can get them to play the same note but I want them to play different notes. I tried playing them both from a mother keyboard but it still didn't work.

ANybody tried it and got it to work ? I would ask Amos but I know those guys are crazy buy ... thanks Roger

till · Post by **till** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:36 am

Did you set the "MIDI Key Order" (MASTER menu) on one of the Voyagers to "1s" and on the other to "2nd"?

prizmatic · Post by **prizmatic** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:50 pm

till wrote:Did you set the "MIDI Key Order" (MASTER menu) on one of the Voyagers to "1s" and on the other to "2nd"?

Yeah tried that and any combination of it as well. I know it must be something simple but Im not getting it...

CZ Rider · Post by **CZ Rider** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:33 pm

prizmatic wrote:Yeah tried that and any combination of it as well. I know it must be something simple but Im not getting it...

I guess Moog forgot to put the procedure in the manual, but the key here is MIDI note order. For it to work you must turn local off, then run MIDI out of the controlling keyboard back into it's MIDI in, and the MIDI thru to the second voice Voyager. Then it will sort the MIDI order.
I still get a lot of MIDI hung notes. Trying to work it out? Been playing a three voice all day today!

PS: Under Midi key order:
Set both max keys to 2
Set active key to 1st on the one and 2nd on the other

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:29 am

So you unforunately only have one voyager, should the number of voices still be 2 - which is the factory default?

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EricK · Post by **EricK** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:19 am

I think if you only have one voyager, your voice should be one.

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:20 am

EricK wrote:I think if you only have one voyager, your voice should be one.

Yes, makes sense, I thought it was odd that the factory default setting is 2.

EricK · Post by **EricK** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:29 am

If were talking about MAX Keys,
See since there are 16 Midi CHannels then you can hook up 16 Voyagers. I think that the max key will depend on the number of Voyagers that you want to activate.

Amos · Post by **Amos** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:44 am

My MIDI setup for this is: MIDI out from master voyager to MIDI IN on second Voyager, Midi THRU from second Voyager back to MIDI IN on first Voyager... Local Off on first Voyager. I've done this with a Voyager keyboard + two RMEs for 3-voice polyphony and I don't recall getting any hung notes. Make sure you don't have any dodgy MIDI cables in your setup, as an intermittent signal can surely cause hung notes...

Cheers,

Amos

CZ Rider · Post by **CZ Rider** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:47 pm

Amos wrote: Make sure you don't have any dodgy MIDI cables in your setup, as an intermittent signal can surely cause hung notes.

Thanks Amos! I eliminated a Kurzweil Expressionmate and an Anatek MIDI thru in the loop and the hung note issue seems to be gone.
Another minor setup issue was setting the one RME MIDI note order max keys to 3. I did so with the cursor, but forgot to hit ENTER after I was done. I guess it reverted back to the previous setting without hitting ENTER? So that was also a source of some strangeness.
As I iron out the settings this is working great! Still, the first step took forever to figure out,---trun the local off.

So what does a three voice Voyager sound like?
Polyphonic Voyager 1:00 2MEGS

PS: At 0:55 you can hear one of the RME voices snap to another held note. This was due to it being set at 2 voice max= hit ENTER after making the change to 3 voice max.

prizmatic · Post by **prizmatic** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:55 pm

Amos wrote:My MIDI setup for this is: MIDI out from master voyager to MIDI IN on second Voyager, Midi THRU from second Voyager back to MIDI IN on first Voyager... Local Off on first Voyager. I've done this with a Voyager keyboard + two RMEs for 3-voice polyphony and I don't recall getting any hung notes. Make sure you don't have any dodgy MIDI cables in your setup, as an intermittent signal can surely cause hung notes...

Cheers,

Amos

Thanks Amos, I will give it a try when I get back to my studio, Roger

prizmatic · Post by **prizmatic** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:22 pm

prizmatic wrote:
Amos wrote:My MIDI setup for this is: MIDI out from master voyager to MIDI IN on second Voyager, Midi THRU from second Voyager back to MIDI IN on first Voyager... Local Off on first Voyager. I've done this with a Voyager keyboard + two RMEs for 3-voice polyphony and I don't recall getting any hung notes. Make sure you don't have any dodgy MIDI cables in your setup, as an intermittent signal can surely cause hung notes...

Cheers,

Amos
Thanks Amos, I will give it a try when I get back to my studio, Roger

OK So I got it to work, I had to disconnect from my Midi interface and Logic and hook them up directly and followed Amos' directions.

Its cool and I found if you put one Voyager on low note priority and the other on high it works better and you really have to play quite differently to make it work but it sounds very cool.

Only problme now is that I really want a Poly Voyager haha

Voltor07 · Post by **Voltor07** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:32 pm

prizmatic wrote:/snip/
Only problme now is that I really want a Poly Voyager haha

Don't worry...we all do.

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