Thanks for the specs.... I keep hearing that their is a big learning curve with the Andromeda.... May not have been mentioned on this thread, but I read about it. It's my understanding that you may have to access several menus (and submenus) to change certain parameters. I'm looking for something pretty straight forward that I can play and twist knobs to get the sound I'm looking for.jon_kull wrote:I haven't read all 5 pages of this post so it may have been stated already but...rajprods wrote:Years ago, I was accustomed to more of the Oberheim sound. For this reason, I would like to get an Omega 8, but it's just too out of range in terms of cost right now. So, I was trying to see what other options I could get for obtaining the "Oberheim" type sound.
The Andromeda has 2 filters. One based on the Moog Modular 904 (The VCOs are also based on the Moog Modular 921) and one based on the Oberheim SEM.
Will it sound exactly like a Moog or Oberheim...no. But you may be able to get close to what you want for less than the cost of an Omega 8 (especially if you can find a used one).
Analog or Digital Polyphonic Synth Suggestions
Flock of Seagulls used a 106, I think. It sounds very '80's, if that makes sense. 
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rajprods wrote:Not to go backwards a bit, but has anyone heard the Juno 106 synth? If so, what kind of sounds can it make? It is worth looking at for about $400? I looked it up on Vintagesynth.com, and it's 6 voices with midi.
It came up a few pages ago . It will do some nice pads and punchy bass lines. For 1 osc ( I think it has a sub osc don't remember)it's not a bad synth but also not a very deep synth. i think it was pretty much just the 106 and not the 60 or 6 that has a chip or two that fail on a regular basis and are hard to find. it maybe worth looking at for 400, The last one i saw used was about 5 years ago and it was going for $250 to $350 range. it will do some basic pads, basses and simple leads. This was an early 80's budget poly synths
.I just remembered that I had a Juno-60 a long time ago.... probably at least 15 years ago.... I thought it was cool then. I think the Juno-60 was the previous model. It seems that the Juno 6 maybe better than the Juno 106, but hard to tell.... maybe pretty much the same.Brian G wrote:rajprods wrote:Not to go backwards a bit, but has anyone heard the Juno 106 synth? If so, what kind of sounds can it make? It is worth looking at for about $400? I looked it up on Vintagesynth.com, and it's 6 voices with midi.
it maybe worth looking at for 400, The last one i saw used was about 5 years ago and it was going for $250 to $350 range. it will do some basic pads, basses and simple leads. This was an early 80's budget poly synths
Well... Yes and no. There is a bit of a learning curve. There's 72 knobs and 114 buttons. Most of which are 1 knob/button per function. The only time I look at menus is to assign mod routings. For example if I want to assign an LFO to filter cutoff I press the filter cutoff mod button and turn a knob to the LFO value.rajprods wrote:Thanks for the specs.... I keep hearing that their is a big learning curve with the Andromeda.... May not have been mentioned on this thread, but I read about it. It's my understanding that you may have to access several menus (and submenus) to change certain parameters. I'm looking for something pretty straight forward that I can play and twist knobs to get the sound I'm looking for.
It's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's not like a Kurzweil or something where you have to go through menus inside of menus inside of menus just to make a simple sawtooth lead.
So, which one do you think it better? Juno 6, Juno 60, or Juno 106? Or none of the above?jon_kull wrote:Well... Yes and no. There is a bit of a learning curve. There's 72 knobs and 114 buttons. Most of which are 1 knob/button per function. The only time I look at menus is to assign mod routings. For example if I want to assign an LFO to filter cutoff I press the filter cutoff mod button and turn a knob to the LFO value.rajprods wrote:Thanks for the specs.... I keep hearing that their is a big learning curve with the Andromeda.... May not have been mentioned on this thread, but I read about it. It's my understanding that you may have to access several menus (and submenus) to change certain parameters. I'm looking for something pretty straight forward that I can play and twist knobs to get the sound I'm looking for.
It's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's not like a Kurzweil or something where you have to go through menus inside of menus inside of menus just to make a simple sawtooth lead.
I just remembered that I had a Juno-60 a long time ago.... probably at least 15 years ago.... I thought it was cool then. I think the Juno-60 was the previous model. It seems that the Juno 6 maybe better than the Juno 106, but hard to tell.... maybe pretty much the same.[/quote]
The 106 was the 'replacement for the 60, soem said the 60 sounded better than the 106. One of the biggest difference was the 106 (one of the first) had MIDI on it the 60 did not. The Juno 6 did not have preset storage or any presets on board it was all sliders nothing else.
Do you need or want to MIDI it, then the 106. Any of them are a older synths. Be ready to have work done on them which can get costly. Nothing wrong with picking up a vintage synth, but also be ready fix them.
If you owned one 15 or so years think through what you really liked about it and what you didn't and if you come up with "wow I wish I never got rid of that" pick up a 60 or a 106 and try it out. It may fit all the needs for what you’re looking for. Do an on line search there may be some of the reviews of the 106 from when it came out.
The 106 was the 'replacement for the 60, soem said the 60 sounded better than the 106. One of the biggest difference was the 106 (one of the first) had MIDI on it the 60 did not. The Juno 6 did not have preset storage or any presets on board it was all sliders nothing else.
Do you need or want to MIDI it, then the 106. Any of them are a older synths. Be ready to have work done on them which can get costly. Nothing wrong with picking up a vintage synth, but also be ready fix them.
If you owned one 15 or so years think through what you really liked about it and what you didn't and if you come up with "wow I wish I never got rid of that" pick up a 60 or a 106 and try it out. It may fit all the needs for what you’re looking for. Do an on line search there may be some of the reviews of the 106 from when it came out.
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The 106 was the 'replacement for the 60, soem said the 60 sounded better than the 106. One of the biggest difference was the 106 (one of the first) had MIDI on it the 60 did not. The Juno 6 did not have preset storage or any presets on board it was all sliders nothing else.[/quote]Brian G wrote:I just remembered that I had a Juno-60 a long time ago.... probably at least 15 years ago.... I thought it was cool then. I think the Juno-60 was the previous model. It seems that the Juno 6 maybe better than the Juno 106, but hard to tell.... maybe pretty much the same.
You are correct, now that I remember, the Juno 60 did not have midi. I just saw one of these on Ebay, so I thought maybe if it was really cheap, I would pick it up. Surprisely, these units are for $300 or more.... I might as well get a JD-990 and put the vintage card in it for that price! However, I wouldn't have the knobs and sliders to play with to create sounds! Decisions.... decisions.... stressing myself out and not getting any work done! I wish this was easier, so I could get this out the way and get back to create and playing music!
[any work done! I wish this was easier, so I could get this out the way and get back to create and playing music![/quote]
It is a hard choice but no reason to stress over it. Do you have a store that will let you rent or try an instrument out for a few days. I know I am pushing the Prophet, but give it a try, or see if you can try a Nord or something else for a few days. using it your set up will help you decide. Then again you may want to keep all of them.
Do this make a choice, then stick with it for a day or two, then if you are still thinking, YES! that is the synth for me then go for it.
the JD990 and the card are nice and can do a lot of creative sounds but are also very different from a analog signal path.
It is a hard choice but no reason to stress over it. Do you have a store that will let you rent or try an instrument out for a few days. I know I am pushing the Prophet, but give it a try, or see if you can try a Nord or something else for a few days. using it your set up will help you decide. Then again you may want to keep all of them
.Do this make a choice, then stick with it for a day or two, then if you are still thinking, YES! that is the synth for me then go for it.
the JD990 and the card are nice and can do a lot of creative sounds but are also very different from a analog signal path.
Brian G wrote:[any work done! I wish this was easier, so I could get this out the way and get back to create and playing music!
It is a hard choice but no reason to stress over it. Do you have a store that will let you rent or try an instrument out for a few days. I know I am pushing the Prophet, but give it a try, or see if you can try a Nord or something else for a few days. using it your set up will help you decide. Then again you may want to keep all of them
.Do this make a choice, then stick with it for a day or two, then if you are still thinking, YES! that is the synth for me then go for it.
the JD990 and the card are nice and can do a lot of creative sounds but are also very different from a analog signal path.[/quote]
I'm in Maryland.... No store around here rents or let's you "try" an instrument.... I would have to order one from an online music store that has a return policy in the event it doesn't work out. Just to clarify, I already have the Nord Lead 2x (keyboard version). Just getting ready to play around with it to see if it will do instead of getting a Prophet 08..... I know, I know.... Can the Prophet 08 do more than the Nord Lead 2x? To be honest, I really haven't studied the Nord enough to answer this question. If someone else has some info, please let me know.
Sorry I didn't see you go The Nord or was it someone else thinking of it ? If you have the Nord then stick with it make some music and add the other stuff later
The Nord and the Prophet are different instruments that will do a lot of the same sounds but also a lot of different sounds. The Nord is a Virtual Synth, the Prophet is a analog synth. Both sound good.
Where in Maryland ? go to Chucks ( Washington Music) in Wheaton. have a lot of fun toys on the floor and can order many others, Ask for Ed. There are also several Guitar Centers around Maryland, not sure how may have the Nord and Prophet on the floor though. Not sure what those places return policy are. For me I am not one to buy try and return, I know some do though but it is a big choice and something that you think is going to work won't . It doesn’t hurt to ask any of them.
If you have the Nord then stick with it make some music and add the other stuff later The Nord and the Prophet are different instruments that will do a lot of the same sounds but also a lot of different sounds. The Nord is a Virtual Synth, the Prophet is a analog synth. Both sound good.
Where in Maryland ? go to Chucks ( Washington Music) in Wheaton. have a lot of fun toys on the floor and can order many others, Ask for Ed. There are also several Guitar Centers around Maryland, not sure how may have the Nord and Prophet on the floor though. Not sure what those places return policy are. For me I am not one to buy try and return, I know some do though
but it is a big choice and something that you think is going to work won't . It doesn’t hurt to ask any of them.None of the above because I've never really used any of them. My analog experience is limited to Moog, Alesis, DSI and my modular stuff. I used a Juno once in the 80s but not long enough to have an opinion on it now.rajprods wrote:So, which one do you think it better? Juno 6, Juno 60, or Juno 106? Or none of the above?jon_kull wrote:Well... Yes and no. There is a bit of a learning curve. There's 72 knobs and 114 buttons. Most of which are 1 knob/button per function. The only time I look at menus is to assign mod routings. For example if I want to assign an LFO to filter cutoff I press the filter cutoff mod button and turn a knob to the LFO value.rajprods wrote:Thanks for the specs.... I keep hearing that their is a big learning curve with the Andromeda.... May not have been mentioned on this thread, but I read about it. It's my understanding that you may have to access several menus (and submenus) to change certain parameters. I'm looking for something pretty straight forward that I can play and twist knobs to get the sound I'm looking for.
It's not as bad as people make it out to be. It's not like a Kurzweil or something where you have to go through menus inside of menus inside of menus just to make a simple sawtooth lead.
Musicians Friend and Sweetwater have easy return policies in the event the product is not right.Brian G wrote:Sorry I didn't see you go The Nord or was it someone else thinking of it ?
The Nord and the Prophet are different instruments that will do a lot of the same sounds but also a lot of different sounds. The Nord is a Virtual Synth, the Prophet is a analog synth. Both sound good.
Where in Maryland ? go to Chucks ( Washington Music) in Wheaton. have a lot of fun toys on the floor and can order many others, Ask for Ed. There are also several Guitar Centers around Maryland, not sure how may have the Nord and Prophet on the floor though. Not sure what those places return policy are. For me I am not one to buy try and return, I know some do though
I went to Chuck's a week ago, and played with the Voyager and Prophet 08.... after that, I started this thread to get some input, feedback, etc. The Prophet sounded better than the Voyager in the store.... not sure if the setup was exact, but that's what I heard. The Prophet 08 was vibrating the floor!Brian G wrote:Sorry I didn't see you go The Nord or was it someone else thinking of it ?
The Nord and the Prophet are different instruments that will do a lot of the same sounds but also a lot of different sounds. The Nord is a Virtual Synth, the Prophet is a analog synth. Both sound good.
Where in Maryland ? go to Chucks ( Washington Music) in Wheaton. have a lot of fun toys on the floor and can order many others, Ask for Ed. There are also several Guitar Centers around Maryland, not sure how may have the Nord and Prophet on the floor though. Not sure what those places return policy are. For me I am not one to buy try and return, I know some do though