4/4 Opression
4/4 Opression
I'm surprised and dissapointed that almost all of the MuRF animation patterns are rigidly stuck on 4/4 rhythms. Not having the option of working with alternative time signatures caters to conformity. Hardly what Moog originally set out to do.
Has anyone working outside of the grid found a creative solution to this limitation?
Has anyone working outside of the grid found a creative solution to this limitation?
Check Appendix A in the manual - the patterns are mostly based on bars of 4 with a few divisible by 6, and a couple that imply random.
I'm talking about using a time signature like 7/4. There are no animation patterns that repeat every 7, 14, 21, etc beats.
There may not be a huge demand for asymetrical rhythms out there, but it's a drag when a cool piece of gear restricts the user to only using 3's and 4's.
I'm talking about using a time signature like 7/4. There are no animation patterns that repeat every 7, 14, 21, etc beats.
There may not be a huge demand for asymetrical rhythms out there, but it's a drag when a cool piece of gear restricts the user to only using 3's and 4's.
Check Appendix A in the manual - the patterns are mostly based on bars of 4 with a few divisible by 6, and a couple that imply random.
I'm talking about using a time signature like 7/4. There are no animation patterns that repeat every 7, 14, 21, etc beats.
There may not be a huge demand for asymetrical rhythms out there, but it's a drag when a cool piece of gear restricts the user to only using 3's and 4's.
I'm talking about using a time signature like 7/4. There are no animation patterns that repeat every 7, 14, 21, etc beats.
There may not be a huge demand for asymetrical rhythms out there, but it's a drag when a cool piece of gear restricts the user to only using 3's and 4's.
Indeed when asked "If you're ON something", it could be taken a number of different ways.
sr dss's queerie was if I was affiliated with a couple of lables that are home to adventurous artists... like Tortoise - a band that uses nasty prog rock time signatures.
My all too brief reply referred to two lables with excellent taste.
sr dss's queerie was if I was affiliated with a couple of lables that are home to adventurous artists... like Tortoise - a band that uses nasty prog rock time signatures.
My all too brief reply referred to two lables with excellent taste.
As a company that wants to sell things, they TRY TRY TRY to make a product that appeals to the most people. Even to add one more switch to it - they would probably add another feature that would make it more useable by the masses. It seems to be doing very well.
However, for your music, why does it have to "repeat" in 7 or 11? Wouldn't it be "more adventurous" to have the pattern change each time (which it would if you use it as-is)?
However, for your music, why does it have to "repeat" in 7 or 11? Wouldn't it be "more adventurous" to have the pattern change each time (which it would if you use it as-is)?
Random sequences can be cool, but would you want that in 4/4 land all the time?
When I bought the piece I thought there was eiher some way of determining the number of steps in the patterns, or there was enough variations in the presets to accomodate different time signatures. I originally made the post to alert other musicians about that particular limitation of the box, as this forum is hopefully a helpful way to do some research.
I also want the fine folks at MOOG to know that there is still some electronic music being made that isn't four beats to the bar.
MOOG didn't establish it's legacy by catering to narrow expectations.
When I bought the piece I thought there was eiher some way of determining the number of steps in the patterns, or there was enough variations in the presets to accomodate different time signatures. I originally made the post to alert other musicians about that particular limitation of the box, as this forum is hopefully a helpful way to do some research.
I also want the fine folks at MOOG to know that there is still some electronic music being made that isn't four beats to the bar.
MOOG didn't establish it's legacy by catering to narrow expectations.
Random sequences can be cool, but would you want that in 4/4 land all the time?
When I bought the piece I thought there was eiher some way of determining the number of steps in the patterns, or there was enough variations in the presets to accomodate different time signatures. I originally made the post to alert other musicians about that particular limitation of the box, as this forum is hopefully a helpful way to do some research.
I also want the fine folks at MOOG to know that there is still some electronic music being made that isn't four beats to the bar.
MOOG didn't establish it's legacy by catering to narrow expectations.
When I bought the piece I thought there was eiher some way of determining the number of steps in the patterns, or there was enough variations in the presets to accomodate different time signatures. I originally made the post to alert other musicians about that particular limitation of the box, as this forum is hopefully a helpful way to do some research.
I also want the fine folks at MOOG to know that there is still some electronic music being made that isn't four beats to the bar.
MOOG didn't establish it's legacy by catering to narrow expectations.