Analog Vocoder/Flanger/Reverb Plans for the Voyager?

Lengai · Post by **Lengai** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 6:31 pm

Hi. I am writing to see if anyone knows if Dr. Bob is planning on any future resleases of a Flanger or Reverb MoogerFooger? I have a Lexicon that does this already, but it would be nice to see what Dr. Moog would create. Also, I know it would be too large to be a MoogerFooger, but are there any plans for an analog vocoder for the Voyager?

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:43 pm

Don't you think Vocoding is a bit played out?

C'mon even Cher uses a vocoder now.

Lengai · Post by **Lengai** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:51 pm

Everyone uses phasers, delays, filters, reverbs, flangers, and ring modulators too, and they aren't played out. Seems like Cher's doing pretty well for herself. I'm more interested in using the vocoder for synthesis, not vocals.

pelican · Post by **pelican** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:48 pm

Here are moogerfoogers I would like to see

1. self contained oscillator with different wave forms- say sine wave,noise, etc...
2. pitch to cv converter as on the korg ms 20
3. an arpeggiator
4. vocoder

pelican · Post by **pelican** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:49 pm

Here are moogerfoogers I would like to see

1. self contained oscillator with different wave forms- say sine wave,noise, etc...
2. pitch to cv converter as on the korg ms 20
3. an arpeggiator
4. vocoder

FreqOut · Post by **FreqOut** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:51 pm

sir_dss wrote:C'mon even Cher uses a vocoder now.

Are you talking about that song "Believe"? (if I hear that song one more time I will impale myself upon a sharp stick)
That's not a vocoder, it's an Antaries Auto-Tune plug-in for ProTools.
It's just been set to deliniate pitch sweeps into a ladder-like form.
Bjork did it first, though...
I *hate* auto-tune and you hear it in almost every pop song made nowadays.
You don't even need to be able to sing to be a pop star anymore...JEEZ!

Back to the moogerfoogers, though. I think a vocoder is much too complicated to put in such a small package. There aren't really any decent vocoders available in the market right now (most of them use DSPs), but I would love to see Moog make another analog one! Right now, your best bet would be a used Roland VP330 (probably the best vocoder ever made). I have experimented quite a bit with using a saxophone for timbre and my Voyager for pitch control...
Pelican, I'm with you on the arpeggiator idea! It would have to have midi in and out, and would take the midi info from the chord played on the voyager and arpeggiate it and send it back to the v'ger. Right now, I hook my microkorg up to the voyager just for its arpeggiator.

FreqOut

monads · Post by **monads** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:40 pm

I'm with the arpeggiator idea! For vocoding might want to check out Doepfer.

http://www.doepfer.de/home_e.htm

Lengai · Post by **Lengai** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:09 pm

Pelican FreqOut, and Monads, I agree. There are definitely several more MoogerFoogers needed for the Voyager. Thanks, I'll check out the other vocoders. I saw an older Moog vocoder on Ebay recently but it went for $2,800 which is more than the Voyager! Yes, its definitely too big to be a MoogerFooger unless its a super sized one.

The arpeggiator is a great idea as well as the oscillator. I know MAM makes a MoogerFooger sized arepggiator called the MAP-1. An analog flanger could definitely be the size of a MoogerFooger. Looks like Dr. Bob's gonna be busy for a while. I'm sure all of these MoogerFoogers would sell very well.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice analog flanger in the meantime?

chihuahuaphile · Post by **chihuahuaphile** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:47 pm

if you can find one, an ADA flanger, it is a very nice voltage controlled flange pedal.you can plug in a vc pedal and control the "flange" it pretty cool because you can set the sweep to what ever speed you want, but as soon as you start moving the pedal the rate of the sweep in controlled by your foot, it also has a VC crude envelope folower built in that will let you control the intensity of the flange by how hard you pick (that is if your a guitarist)
i've seen them on ebay for around $150 - $200. they did reissue them a few years back but i heard somewhere that the company went under.

by the way, it is the thickest flange i have ever heard. if you have the "enhance" knob all the way up, it about sounds like a jet plane going over your head!

shua · Post by **shua** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:12 am

I don't know about you guys, but I kicked out my ADA flanger when I bought the MOogerfooger phasor. The flanger sounds are very interesting, and more sonically diverse than the ADA.

as for the arpegiator:

A Guitar arpegiator, with midi out, controlled by tap tempo and ep pedal for speed, plus its got to have a hold switch. Only moog could pull htis hsit off.