Polyphonic vs. monophonic

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Post by LWG » Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:56 pm

Hello,

The P5's voice defeat system was largely implemented as an emergency function.
If a voice cannot be tuned by the autotune routine, it can be disabled
and the instrument is still functional.
Also, if a voice becomes defective during performance, it can be disabled,
likewise.
The voice selection feature seen on other synths was implemented as more of a performance enhancement feature.


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Post by FIGS » Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:55 pm

little doodler wrote:"Very few polysynths let you specify the number of voices in unison mode. The ones I know of are Memorymoog and Andromeda."

Studio Electronics Omega 8 lets you specify 1,2,4,6 or 8 voices.
OB8 and OBSX allow you to turn voices on or off in poly, unison, split AND layer modes. These were more for "turn them off when they stop responding to auto tune", but could be used any way a player saw fit.

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Post by LWG » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:20 am

I forgot about the Obies and the Xpander/Matrix.
The OB-SX 6-voice version let you select 4-voice or 6 voice config with autotune abled or disabled.
In addition, you can select 6-voice config with just osc 1 or just osc 2 (autotune enabled).
The only thing is that on the SX, you can only change these settings via
a set of dip switches located internally.


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Post by Anna's Digit » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:11 am

MC wrote:Yup the Minimoog is monophonic.

So is your singing voice.

And the trumpet, saxophone, clarinet, trombone...

Yup, can't play chords with those but in the right hands they are a hell of an expressive instrument :)
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Post by CZ Rider » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:57 pm

ikazlar wrote:Oftentimes, limitations in synthesizers push the limits in their PERFORMERS.

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Couldn't agree more. Pushing an older synthesizer to it's limits is where I have the most fun. With some of these newer synthesizers it gets tougher to find limits to push the boundaries.
Here is a U-toob video where I push the limits of a monophonic to play polyphonic chords. I do this live quite a bit. Not the perfect solution to getting polyphonic chords on your monophonic, but it works in some situations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynu8vPu2amg&NR=1

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Post by Maskin » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:21 am

CZ Rider wrote:
ikazlar wrote:Oftentimes, limitations in synthesizers push the limits in their PERFORMERS.

8)
Couldn't agree more. Pushing an older synthesizer to it's limits is where I have the most fun. With some of these newer synthesizers it gets tougher to find limits to push the boundaries.
Here is a U-toob video where I push the limits of a monophonic to play polyphonic chords. I do this live quite a bit. Not the perfect solution to getting polyphonic chords on your monophonic, but it works in some situations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynu8vPu2amg&NR=1
That is awesome! :D
What reverb do you use? It gives a nice touch to the sound.
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Post by CZ Rider » Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:25 pm

Maskin wrote: That is awesome! :D
What reverb do you use? It gives a nice touch to the sound.
Well, I'm using a Zoom 9010, but any reverb should be able to do this with any monophonic. The trick is that the reverb has none of the original dry sound, it's all the reverb. Set it to max reflections/time and you should be there. I've done this with a Moog Prodigy and Yamaha CS-15 and they each have thier own unique tone. The waveform it creates is complex, sometimes it sounds like an orchestra or choir. By changing the speed of the arpeggio, you can alter the waveform. The U-toob audio sounds crap compaired to the actual tone it gets.

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Post by Maskin » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:06 pm

CZ Rider wrote:
Maskin wrote: That is awesome! :D
What reverb do you use? It gives a nice touch to the sound.
Well, I'm using a Zoom 9010, but any reverb should be able to do this with any monophonic. The trick is that the reverb has none of the original dry sound, it's all the reverb. Set it to max reflections/time and you should be there. I've done this with a Moog Prodigy and Yamaha CS-15 and they each have thier own unique tone. The waveform it creates is complex, sometimes it sounds like an orchestra or choir. By changing the speed of the arpeggio, you can alter the waveform. The U-toob audio sounds crap compaired to the actual tone it gets.
Thanks for the information. I'm familiar with the trick, but with the reverbs I have (capable of producing a 100% wet sound) the result isn't nearly as sweet sounding as yours. :)
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Post by Elhardt » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:08 pm

CZ Rider wrote: Couldn't agree more. Pushing an older synthesizer to it's limits is where I have the most fun. With some of these newer synthesizers it gets tougher to find limits to push the boundaries.
Here is a U-toob video where I push the limits of a monophonic to play polyphonic chords.
I've used that technique a few times, but it might be considered pushing the limits of effects devices more than synths. The Roland DEP-5 is good at it as it can have reverb decay times of up to 99 seconds, and some devices have an infinite reverb setting.

I've gotten clean real-time four voice polyphony out of my modular synth by using a Roland VP-70 voice processor / pitch shifter which has a mode that looks at what keys are being played on a midi keyboard, detects the pitch of an incoming sound, then shifts that sound to the pitches held down on the keyboard.

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Post by EricK » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:05 am

Theres this bathrooom on campus that has such an echo I can whistle and then abruptly stop and whistle another note and Im hearing duophonic chords. If I try really hard Im whistling the note of the triad.

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