Moog Prodigy through a mouth-box

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Moog Prodigy through a mouth-box

Post by blutarsky » Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:39 am

Hello I'm new around here. Things your should not do with your moog, but you do anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xv407UmkU
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Re: Moog Prodigy through a mouth-box

Post by GregAE » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:39 am

blutarsky wrote:Hello I'm new around here. Things your should not do with your moog, but you do anyway:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xv407UmkU
Shouldn't do? Nah!

Actually, the vid was pretty cool - the drone reminded me of a didgeridoo. The talk box is a well established effect with guitar players (doesn't Peter Frampton own that sound?), but there's no reason why it can't also be employed by synth players.

In small doses it can add a nice bit of performance expression.

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Re: Moog Prodigy through a mouth-box

Post by boose44 » Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:38 am

GregAE wrote:(doesn't Peter Frampton own that sound?)
I think Joe Walsh might disagree with you there. :D

Pretty cool video, though -- and a great idea. My guitarist has a talk box that I can never get him to use -- think I might have to try to borrow it. :)

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Re: Moog Prodigy through a mouth-box

Post by EricK » Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:27 pm

boose44 wrote:
GregAE wrote:(doesn't Peter Frampton own that sound?)
My guitarist has a talk box that I can never get him to use -- think I might have to try to borrow it. :)

-bruce
THats a pretty personal instrument isnt it? It reminds me of a time I was playing auxillary percussion in a night club one night when this sax player came in and started blowing some crazy bop phrases. When we took a break this guy from the club asked if he could blow the sax players sax. The sax player hesitated but got out of it by saying something very vulgar about an oral procedure that he had performed on his wife just prior to coming to the club. THe look on the other guys face was a "Sick Dissapointment" and I laughed so hard!

Its one of those "you had to have been there" srt of things.
True story.


Anyway I really liked the video, it sounded like some buddhist chanting.

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So if your friend says anything sick then just make the point that you can buy some tube from the hardware store hahahah!
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Post by atkbg » Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:37 pm

check out this video of Jeff Beck. Its before Frampton.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBpSeyk1z4o

I wonder where Frampton got that line?

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Post by dlearyus » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:05 am

atkbg wrote:check out this video of Jeff Beck. Its before Frampton.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=aBpSeyk1z4o

I wonder where Frampton got that line?
I was alwyas under the impression Jeff Beck invented the device....

1st time i ever heard it was when Blow By Blow came out

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Post by GregAE » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:55 am

dlearyus wrote: I was alwyas under the impression Jeff Beck invented the device....
From the wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box):

"There is controversy over who invented the talking guitar device. Bob Heil has claimed he invented the talk box but there is clearly prior art in the form of the Kustom Electronics device, "The Bag", which is the same concept housed in a decorative bag slung over the shoulder like a wine bottle and sold in 1969, two years before Mr. Heil's Talk Box. The Bag is claimed to have been designed by Doug Forbes, who states that the exact same concept (horn driver attached to a plastic tube and inserted into the mouth) had previously been patented as an artificial larynx.

In 1973, Heil gave his talk box to Peter Frampton as a Christmas present. Frampton first heard the talk box when Stevie Wonder was using it for his upcoming album Music of My Mind. Then when he was playing guitar on George Harrison's All Things Must Pass, he saw Pete Drake using it with a pedal steel guitar. Frampton used it extensively on his album Frampton Comes Alive! Due to the success of the album, and particularly the hit singles "Do You Feel Like We Do" and "Show Me the Way", Frampton has become somewhat synonymous with the talk box.

Another early adopter of the talk box was Joe Walsh, whose "Rocky Mountain Way" (1973) features an extended talk box solo. Joe Walsh used a talk box in the popular Eagles song "Those Shoes".

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I also found a pretty comprehensive site about talk boxes here:

http://www.blamepro.com/talkbox.htm#top

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Post by blutarsky » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:08 am

Hey thanks everyone for replying...
I'm not a big fan of the talk-box (mouth-box? what the hell..) used on guitar, though it seems to be invented for that purpose. Being born in 1974 and growing up in the 80s I just can't get the image of Richie Sambora out of my mind every time I hear that sound :D
But as I own one... well, I thought why not? And I really love that sound on a static sound like a synth. It really sounds like a gregorian chant or something like that... you know that peculiar vocal sound you can hear in Popol Vuh music? Mmmm.....
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Post by EricK » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:09 pm

Larry Graham did some cool stuff with the talkbox. (He did some cool stuff with the bass too lol)

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Post by bunnyman » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:21 pm

RE: 1973... Todd Rundgren used one on Range War (1971) and Breathless (1972). I think they'd been floating around a little while...

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Post by theglyph » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:54 am

That sounds great!

I purchased a Danelectro "Free Speech" talk box to use with my guitar but I could never get it to work the way I wanted so it went into the pile. I've never thought of using it to process my synths. I'll have to give it a spin with my LP.

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Peter Frampton

Post by dave500 » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:46 pm

Here is Peter Frampton's talk box

http://www.framptone.com/
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Post by Kevin Lightner » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:08 pm

Here's an old video of Stevie Wonder using one.
He's using an Arp 2600, but you know all those old symphs sound the same.. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRHd0cAKb28

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Post by LWG » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:18 pm

Hello,

Stevie - Love Having You Around. This was from the first album of the four classics, "Music of My Mind". Talk box w/synth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6JWVmc ... re=related

Stevie Wonder - I Believe. Jeff Beck did the talk box effects w/guitar on this one. Its on the second album of the four.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H--_-gPX3Nw


Stevie on Sesame St - there was another of these, but may have been taken down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN_CIn7Z ... re=related


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Post by atkbg » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:17 am

Has anyone here used or built the synblo?

I've always said I was going to. Another thing on the list of things to do.

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