freqbox vs. mothership

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Post by CTRLSHFT » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:59 pm

roboctopus wrote:Whoa. I gotta say, the mothership sounds killer. Redeye is right, the portamento... That's the synthy kicker. The ultimate pedal would be some combination of the two. Mothership with sync and fm sounds. I have synths and guitars, but if I was trying to make a guitar sound like a synth, I think I'd go for the mothership. Portamento on a guitar is worth the price of admission. Then - of course - you run that through the mf-101 with some resonance.
with the lag processor on the cp-251 you can get portamento going on the 107. i haven't tried that yet with an audio signal, only the Pitch CV coming out of the voyager to control 107 pitch, but it might be worth a try, i've gotten some great tb303-type acid leads using the voyager's ADSRs/audio in/amp section in conjunction w/ 101/107 (ie, only the 107 osc and 101 filtering, no voyager filter or vcos).
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Post by toryjames » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:13 pm

You could get portamento going into the FreqBox CV input, but unfortunately not the audio input. If you ran the audio signal into the Lag processor then the FreqBox audio in the Lag processor would simply muffle the sound of the original audio signal (like a Low-Pass Filter). The FreqBox uses the audio source to reset/sync its internal oscillator, it never converts the incoming audio to a control voltage - which is what would be necessary to achieve portamento using analog circuitry. These Pitch-to-CV converters are somewhat hard to come by and I've heard that they are not very accurate (Analogue Systems makes one - though I've never used it).

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Post by CTRLSHFT » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:07 pm

toryjames wrote:You could get portamento going into the FreqBox CV input, but unfortunately not the audio input. If you ran the audio signal into the Lag processor then the FreqBox audio in the Lag processor would simply muffle the sound of the original audio signal (like a Low-Pass Filter). The FreqBox uses the audio source to reset/sync its internal oscillator, it never converts the incoming audio to a control voltage - which is what would be necessary to achieve portamento using analog circuitry. These Pitch-to-CV converters are somewhat hard to come by and I've heard that they are not very accurate (Analogue Systems makes one - though I've never used it).
i guess i don't really see what the point of glide would be w/ when using the audio input though.. the vco is just going to try to hard sync to the input source, and if the input source is guitar, then play legato riffs and there ya go, portamento. tweaking with the envelope will definitely get you there too even if you're playing more staccato with whatever instrument is coming in.
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Post by toryjames » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:19 am

CTRLSHFT wrote:with the lag processor on the cp-251 you can get portamento going on the 107. i haven't tried that yet with an audio signal, only the Pitch CV coming out of the voyager to control 107 pitch, but it might be worth a try...
That was your point, right?
CTRLSHFT wrote:i guess i don't really see what the point of glide would be w/ when using the audio input though.. the vco is just going to try to hard sync to the input source, and if the input source is guitar, then play legato riffs and there ya go, portamento. tweaking with the envelope will definitely get you there too even if you're playing more staccato with whatever instrument is coming in.
Actually, neither of these will sound like portamento.

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Post by CTRLSHFT » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:04 pm

CTRLSHFT wrote:i guess i don't really see what the point of glide would be w/ when using the audio input though.. the vco is just going to try to hard sync to the input source, and if the input source is guitar, then play legato riffs and there ya go, portamento. tweaking with the envelope will definitely get you there too even if you're playing more staccato with whatever instrument is coming in.
toryjames wrote:Actually, neither of these will sound like portamento.
how do you figure it won't? portamento is going between two notes without the individual sounding of the ones inbetween; the more portamento, the more time it takes for it to go from note A to note B, hence creating a more pronounced glide sound. your playing determines how much glide there is with the 107. it would be nice to have real control over portamento on the audio in of the 107, but i don't think it's all that necessary.
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Post by jamirokid » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:17 pm

Hi. I made a video a little bit ago of the Freqbox as a guitar synth.
Check it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XG_HcX35_-M
The Mothership sounds great too. I got a chance to play it a NAMM.
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