MP-201: Explanation Please.

Pastoral · Post by **Pastoral** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:09 pm

I'm being a little dense here, but could somebody please explain in practical terms just what exactly the MP-201 does?

I have a Voyager, an LP and MF 101,102,103 & 104 pedals. I don't use computer base sequencing, midi or midi-syncing...just live playing or analog sequencing to 'tape". How would this device be useful to me?

Thanks for your help.....

SteveD · Post by **SteveD** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:19 pm

With a setup with multiple moogerfoogers, a Voyager, and an LP - if you want to use an expression pedal for adjusting certain things while you play -it is likely that you would need multiple pedals. That takes up a lot of space and demands a bit of "choreography" in getting from one pedal to the next. Another option would be to have a single expression pedal, and re-patch it to the inputs that you want when you need to use it. In performance, that's not very convenient.

So in its most basic function the MP-201 is a single expression pedal with four outputs, and you can select which of the four outputs are used. You can output on all four channels simultaneously, or just one at a time. Or anything in between.

It gets more advanced than this - you can program the depth and even the direction of the outputs - Say one output goes 0 to +5, one goes +2 to +1, one goes +4 to +5, and another goes +5 to 0. This is all from the same motion of the one expression pedal on the MP-201. This is how you can "morph" from one group of CV settings to another. With a single moogerfooger, like the ring mod - you can think of it as having presets for your moogerfooger, and having the ability to morph between "presets" of the moogerfooger.

Beyond that the outputs can also be configured as LFOs, with the expression pedal controlling either rate or amount. LFOs on different channels can be independent or synced together - and there are several waveforms to choose from.

So there's a LOT this thing can do for any CV setup.

There is also a MIDI output so most of the same things (except fast LFOs) that can be output by the MP-201's CV outputs can be output as MIDI CCs.

Hope that helps a little - it's a deep product! There's even more it will do, but that's a quick synopsis... You have to use your imagination to come up with ideas that are useful to your music.

SD

Bryan T · Post by **Bryan T** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:34 pm

SteveD wrote:There is also a MIDI output so most of the same things (except fast LFOs) that can be output by the MP-201's CV outputs can be output as MIDI CCs

Is there MIDI input? If so, can it do MIDI->CV? What about changing the pedal settings via MIDI?

Bryan

Mooguitar · Post by **Mooguitar** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:27 pm

No MIDI to CV (as yet..???) I am ill equipped to know whether this would be a possible add-on... Steve -- is this feasible...???

But as others have pointed out -- MIDI can be the clock, can receive/transmit MIDI SYS EX (single Presets, Preset Bank, or Bulk Dump), and transmit CC#s.

But yeah -GREAT point Pastoral -- "what are some basic practical uses"- I am on tour right now using FOUR expression pedals...and having one would be GREAT...since i generally tweak one parameter at a time, maybe two...and this would clean up the setup...PLUS all the other stuff i could pull off with presets etc.

djghostdogg · Post by **djghostdogg** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:33 pm

how much ?

Mooguitar · Post by **Mooguitar** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:45 pm

At NAMM, and on the moog site, it was announced as $499.

I'm biased, but just for the four independent LFOs that is a great deal....

dzy88p · Post by **dzy88p** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:12 am

Too bad no MIDI IN, I guess I won't be selling my Kenton converter.

Otherwise this sounds great, can't wait to get mine.

Bryan T · Post by **Bryan T** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:53 pm

dzy88p wrote:Too bad no MIDI IN, I guess I won't be selling my Kenton converter.

It does have MIDI IN, it just doesn't do MIDI to CV (yet . . . I'm hopeful!).

Bryan

latigid on · Post by **latigid on** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:53 pm

I wonder if the CV could be automated? Lets say you have a patch running on the MP-201, while recording MIDI into a DAW/sequencer. On playback, will any CCs modulate at the analog CV outputs?

Steve, Amos etc., do you know when the manual will be available?

little doodler · Post by **little doodler** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:31 pm

Bryan T wrote:
dzy88p wrote:Too bad no MIDI IN, I guess I won't be selling my Kenton converter.
It does have MIDI IN, it just doesn't do MIDI to CV (yet . . . I'm hopeful!).

Bryan

people always find something to bitch about. Seems like a great pedal to combine foogers and such.

varice · Post by **varice** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:59 pm

SteveD - Thanks a million for your detailed explanation. That really helped me understand better how the MP-201 can be used.

I also hope that it would possible to add the MIDI to CV convertor feature (if it does not already exist). This is not a bitch about an already excellent pedal. The MIDI->CV feature would make the MP-201 an ideal solution for my particular situation. I modified my Nord Modular G2X digital synth to get a CV signal output to control the filter cutoff freq of my (slightly modified) MF-101 Low Pass Filter. For more info about this digital/analog hybrid mutant monster, check this out:

http://electro-music.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12266

The only real drawback with this mutant monster is that there currently is no way to store and control the MF-101 resonance settings from the synth. I need a MIDI->CV convertor for that. At least one MIDI->CV channel on the MP-201 (along with the current feature set) would put this pedal on my must have list!

sine · Post by **sine** » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:44 am

With devices like the Kenton Pro Solo, CV "performances" can essentially be recorded. MIDI CC's going in to the gadget are converted to CV's. And since the MIDI CC's can be recorded to a sequencer you have CV performance repeatabilty. If the MP-201 could do MIDI > CV, I would buy it.

dzy88p · Post by **dzy88p** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:50 pm

Agree with previous posters regarding midi>cv.

I love the Kenton Pro Solo MKII because I can trigger the MF-101 resonance filter to track the midi keyboard exactly. Granted it's just a sine wave but it's the awesome moog filter that gives it that cool sound. Reminiscent of the extended Aquatarkus solo on the WBMFTTSTNE album, which is to date my favorite synth solo of all time. Then I route to the FreqBox for more wave forms (although I am still disappointed in its sound quality).

Nevertheless, I've ordered the MP-201 because I am hopelessly addicted to my moogerfoogers and I want to expand their possibilities. I only use the midi>cv converter occasionally, but I expect to use the MP-201 more frequently.