My 2 cents are this:
Moog Music has always been able to think differently, and makes advanced decisions based on that different thinking. They don't follow what everybody asks for right away because they don't want to let any customers down, in the sense that they want to do things right, and not shoddy. They don't have 5000 people working for them in development, they have a small team that can tackle one problem at a time.
With that said, I personally think the MP-201 has many merits, you can control the pitch of 4 oscillators at once, (MF-101, MF-102, MF-104, MF-107) and call up a certain tuned key at any point in time that creates a moogerfooger chord... that alone makes the moogerfoogers much more precise... and usable as melodic instruments.
I think if you can't be patient for your favorite, most respected company to do their job the way they have always done it, then you need to go and find other means to satisfy your needs. I don't want a company like moog to expand to a massive corporation in order to satisfy every customer's needs, right away. I want them to keep doing what they are doing, at the pace the do it at, so it's done right.
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Or you could build one yourself , as good or better than all those mentioned, for around $100:Sidewind wrote:If you are looking for a CV sequencer, may I suggest the Doepfer MAQ 16/3?
http://www.musicfromouterspace.com/anal ... 6_2006.php
I have looked at that site before, but I have never gone the next step to order and build any of their projects. My slobbering iron experience is extremely limited, and the sequencer is listed as an advanced project, so I would be extremely reluctant to try it.
MF 102,White MF 103, MF 105B, Minitaur, and an LP Stage II w/ CV Out Mod as well!
i think the mp is a very powerful live tool and definitely something that was bound to come out. admittedly i would have rather seen a new MF (or two!), but moog's reputation for suprising us with ideas that really 'expand the box' means development from many facets and musician perspectives in mind.
with that out of the way:
Moog, please please please make an amp+ADSR+cv-midi converter (i could live without the last part but it would be a boon to those w/o one already) type CP unit that we can use to take the MF series go modular! MF-107s would suddenly be even more desirable in multiples! guitarists too would benefit from this in a big way from the env angle of a cp unit like that.
Also, a multimode MF filter design! LPF is great but i want nasty hp/bp/notch/peak filtering too! the voyager doesn't do this well, and I need an alternative! there's competition out there, sure, but i'm positive moog could find a new avenue to exploit with this. if the adsr cp unit comes out too, a multimode filter would be even more desirable as a very important component of the whole modular posibility. i really think theres a way for moog to approach modulars without alienating the fans that just want individual pedals for their guitar rig and synthesists just starting out. it's all about utility, and if nothing else i've learned moog makes EVERYTHING versitile. every fooger has a purpose beyond the obvious one. ::fingers crossed for awesome::
with that out of the way:
Moog, please please please make an amp+ADSR+cv-midi converter (i could live without the last part but it would be a boon to those w/o one already) type CP unit that we can use to take the MF series go modular! MF-107s would suddenly be even more desirable in multiples! guitarists too would benefit from this in a big way from the env angle of a cp unit like that.
Also, a multimode MF filter design! LPF is great but i want nasty hp/bp/notch/peak filtering too! the voyager doesn't do this well, and I need an alternative! there's competition out there, sure, but i'm positive moog could find a new avenue to exploit with this. if the adsr cp unit comes out too, a multimode filter would be even more desirable as a very important component of the whole modular posibility. i really think theres a way for moog to approach modulars without alienating the fans that just want individual pedals for their guitar rig and synthesists just starting out. it's all about utility, and if nothing else i've learned moog makes EVERYTHING versitile. every fooger has a purpose beyond the obvious one. ::fingers crossed for awesome::
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I started building some of these (and others--there are circuits available on the web for nearly every synth function-- and many you didn't know existed) modules about a year ago. I can't believe I waited so long to try building these things myself- I had been playing analog synths for over 10 years.Suburban Bather wrote:Henfield wrote:My slobbering iron![]()
I would like to try one those projects someday. I can solder cables no problem, but thats all I've done. In what way can these projects be difficult?
It's a difficult question to answer, that is, why some circuits are difficult--or more difficult than others. But mostly, I'd say it coimes down to complexity. The MFOS sequencer is probably the most complex of any od the PCBs they offer. So, it's probably better to start practicing on something a little simpler. It's easy to think you have everything soldered in correctly--or have the right components in the first place, and then later find that your circuit isn't working. At that point, it can be extremely difficult (without electronics experience) to track down what you've done wrong. Especially so on a very complex board like the sequencer.
But, if you're extremely careful, and don't rush things, there's no reason for anyone to think they can't build these modules. At that point, you don't have to wait for Moog to issue an ADSR or VCA or Pitch to Voltage Mooger. Just build it yourself. You can even design it to look as similar to your Moogers as you want ( mostly depending on how much money you want to spend).