is anyone using an external filter with the LP?
I'm thinking in getting an analog filter to give me BP and HP sounds. I'm particularly looking at the sherman mkII.
does anyone has this combo? Does the moog osc blend well with the sherman?
external filter for LP (sherman)
Re: external filter for LP (sherman)
No response from anyone else? Okay, I'll jump in.kcabdeef wrote:is anyone using an external filter with the LP?
I'm thinking in getting an analog filter to give me BP and HP sounds. I'm particularly looking at the sherman mkII.
does anyone has this combo? Does the moog osc blend well with the sherman?
I have and use the Sherman FilterBank 2 with my Voyager. You can see a picture of my rig here: https://www.moogmusic.com/members/index ... ile_id=104
The FB functions very well with the Voyager (IMO), so I'd assume the same thing about the LP. With the Voyager, however, I have some options that are unavailable with the LP, including the MixOut jack that allows me to insert the FB inline (post-mixer/pre-filter). That way I can process the Voyager's oscillators using just the FB, or route back into the Voyager through the LPF. Conversely, I can route the Voyager's output into the FB for some tonal adjustments. One can never have too many options when it comes to sound processing!
With the LP, you'll only be able to effect the sound at the output, but if you open the LPF Cutoff all the way, then the FB can provide all of the tonal shaping. This should give you plenty of sound mangling capability.
A couple more things to consider: The FB can give you psuedo-stereo from LP in the same way that the Voyager does - by splitting the input signal through two filters and two VCA's. A nice touch.
And don't forget that the FB will also give you a few extra CV's to play with (an LFO and EG). You can use these to modulate the LP's pitch, filter and/or volume - an added bonus.
All that said, will you like what the FB does to the sound of the LP? Only you can answer that question. The FB definitely has its own character, and it may or may not work for your ears, but make no mistake - it gives you a lot of filtering options. Try one out if you can before buying.
- G
Thanks for the kind words abut my setup. I choose the rack mount version of the FB so that I could have the I/O and CV jacks available on the front (the tabletop model has them on the back).kcabdeef wrote:great setup Greg. love it!
I have one question about the CV outputs though. can you choose between midi and the env follower to be the trigger for the envelopes?
You can choose between MIDI or audio triggering. The MIDI triggering arrangement is unique in that it uses specific MIDI notes to trigger the ADSR and AR envelopes:
F#4: ADSR trigger
A#4: AR trigger
G#4: Trigger both EGs.
You can read about it in the 'Abusers Manual', available online at the Sherman site.
Let me add one more observation about the FB. It's not exactly what I would call an immediate gratification box. You'll need to spend some time with it to understand the various signal flow options, how the controls work, etc. in order to get the most from it. There's also the consideration of whether or not you like the sound of it with your LP. Again, check it out if you can. Buyer's remorse is a terrible thing - try before you buy!
Greg,
about the specific note triggering the envelopes. The way I was planning to set it up (for basic synth sounds) would be to trigger the sherman with the LP's midi out. But this would be assuming that any note would trigger the envelopes.
This way the sherman would retrigger every time I'd play a note in the kbd.
Is there any way to do it like this?
Do I need to use the env follower for this?
And if you use the env follower do you get any clicks in teh attack? or does the env kicks in quickly?
about the specific note triggering the envelopes. The way I was planning to set it up (for basic synth sounds) would be to trigger the sherman with the LP's midi out. But this would be assuming that any note would trigger the envelopes.
This way the sherman would retrigger every time I'd play a note in the kbd.
Is there any way to do it like this?
Do I need to use the env follower for this?
And if you use the env follower do you get any clicks in teh attack? or does the env kicks in quickly?
GregAE, I think your answers could be interesting for everyone. After all, this is about Moog gear in real life, isn't it ?
kcabdeef, I also use a couple of FB2 on many things, and they're great. But it's a bit tricky if you want to keep your sound very clean... FB2 is quite nasty, so you'll love it...or not.
kcabdeef, I also use a couple of FB2 on many things, and they're great. But it's a bit tricky if you want to keep your sound very clean... FB2 is quite nasty, so you'll love it...or not.
I want it for that too, but I'd like to use it as an extension of the LP. So I'd like to be able to trigger the envelopes with note on messages from the LP keyboard. Do you know if this possible somehow?
I think this could be done with some software that would convert any note input into C4 or whatever. Got to check if we can do this with ableton live's plugs.
I think this could be done with some software that would convert any note input into C4 or whatever. Got to check if we can do this with ableton live's plugs.