Using the FreqBox for Filter FM

lotus-eater · Post by **lotus-eater** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:02 am

I was wondering if anyone has used the OSC OUT CV on the FreqBox to create filter fm by patching it into the Frequency CV in on their MF-101, Frostwave Resonator, etc. I'm particularly interested in hearing how that would sound with the Frostwave, and I saw in another thread that there is at least one member here who has both modules. A short demo would be very much appreciated! Another question I have regarding the MF-107 is how usable it's envelope out CV is for controlling things like filters. I read in the manual that the voltage output isn't as smooth as what's used internally to control the FB's Oscillator. Is it too jumpy to track a synth bass? Would it work well for percussion?

Thanks for any help.

earsmack · Post by **earsmack** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:03 pm

http://earsmack.com/stuff/freqbox/

Check out the last three demos on this page...hopefully this covers more or less what you were looking for. Obviously there are endless possibilities and sounds available from this setup. This is but one example.

freqbox_oscout_2_resonator.mp3
freqbox_envout_2_resonator.mp3
drum_voyager_freqbox_envout_2_resonator.mp3

lotus-eater · Post by **lotus-eater** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:13 pm

Thanks so much for these demos! That is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. Now I have little choice but to pick up both of these amazing effects.

I bet with the filters driven into self-oscillation, that FM trick would yield some tasty results. The freqbox really offers some cool CV possibilities that are only becoming apparent to me now. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

Thanks again.

earsmack · Post by **earsmack** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:26 am

Regarding self-oscillation: the few times in those demos where the levels got out of control quickly was me messing with the lpf resonance on the frostwave...it can be very sensitive

It sounds like you have your mind set on the resonator and I have to agree. I did a lot of comparison shopping between that, the moog, the jomox and metasonix. They all have advantages but the cv control and (relative) tameness of the frostwave sold me on it.

The freqbox is a no-brainer.

Let me know when you get them - I'd like to hear what you do with them.

lotus-eater · Post by **lotus-eater** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:14 am

I wondered if that wasn't some unruly MS20 resonance in there!

Thanks for your thoughts regarding the resonator. I've nearly pulled the trigger on that one a bunch of times, but always turned to other options because of it's lack of an envelope generator/follower, or any other built-in modulation. I think together with the FreqBox, I'll be getting exactly what I always wanted.

I'll definitely be back to post some examples of what I'm doing with these effects once I get them. (and probably asking advice on the CP-251... I can already see things starting to get out of hand!)

lotus-eater · Post by **lotus-eater** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:46 am

Now that I think about it, a CP-251 will be a must since I plan to send a mix of both the env and osc control voltages from the FreqBox into the LPF cv input on the Resonator. Those attenuator, multiple, and inverter modules will definitely be useful, as well.

Back on topic, one thing I definitely plan to try is hard-synching the freq-box oscillator to some incoming percussive material, then using the osc and env cvs to modulate the resonator's filters, through which the drums will be processed post FreqBox. Similar to one of your examples, but with some filter fm for added funkiness (acidiness?).

Actually, I'll probably get more usable results if the FreqBox is generating it's cvs from just the kick drum.

I have to get my hands on this stuff soon!

earsmack · Post by **earsmack** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:57 pm

Yea, using the FB as the env follower for the resonator is a good idea - hadn't really thought of it much before but that gives you a feature of the Jomox.

lotus-eater · Post by **lotus-eater** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:59 am

zbq, something else I'm curious to try with the FreqBox when I get it, is running it's osc out cv into the frequency cv input of my Frostwave Blue Ringer V2. The DACs Freque II, which basically represents the peak of ring modulation on this planet, offers the ability to modulate the carrier wave of one of it's ring mods with that of the other ring mod, so this effect must give some interesting results. I noticed you have an MF-102, and thought perhaps this is something you might wish to try.

Cheers

analoghaze · Post by **analoghaze** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:15 am

I can't wait unit Moog ships the next batch of FreqBoxes!!!

I am told mine should be in "soon."

I noticed you have an MF-102, and thought perhaps this is something you might wish to try.

I've been wanting to try this as well.

earsmack · Post by **earsmack** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:52 pm

lotus-eater wrote:zbq, something else I'm curious to try with the FreqBox when I get it, is running it's osc out cv into the frequency cv input of my Frostwave Blue Ringer V2. The DACs Freque II, which basically represents the peak of ring modulation on this planet, offers the ability to modulate the carrier wave of one of it's ring mods with that of the other ring mod, so this effect must give some interesting results.

Interesting idea - I'll try that next time I'm in the room...thanks!