tap tempo and the murf

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revstate
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tap tempo and the murf

Post by revstate » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:44 am

for some reason, i can never get it to stay in time with the bpm of my track. i know my timing is not that bad, so could it be my footswitch, or does this happen a lot with other people?

what footswitch do you recommend ? is the fs-1 any good?

thanks

-rev

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Post by latigid on » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:40 pm

Can you send an audio signal (e.g. a hand clap as quarter notes) from the sequencer - maybe out the headphone jack - to the tap input?

You know the MuRF needs three taps at least, right?

And the FS-1 is normally closed, so you break the connection (open the switch) when you tap. This is probably what's causing the problem, as it will be the time you release your foot that will sync the MuRF, not the time you depress. That is only if you are using a normally open footswitch, which I guess you are, as they are more common. You can always check with a multimeter.

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Post by revstate » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:17 pm

i am using a roland dp2 footswitch, and i am guessing that it is "normally open"

so if i get a moog fs-1 or another "normally closed" footswitch i should be ok, correct?

thanks for the information, this is exactly what i needed to know !!

thanks!

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Post by latigid on » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:01 am

I think a normally closed footswitch should solve the problem.

A little searching reveals the Boss FS-5U (unlatched, i.e. momentary) is about ten bucks cheaper than the FS-1, and it can be configured as normally open or normally closed.

It might be possible to 'mod' your existing pedal, but for a couple of dollars, it possibly isn't worth the effort.

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Post by revstate » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:22 am

check out how cheap the roland dp2 is:

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no wonder why it felt like a cheap p.o.s. - it was because it is a cheap p.o.s

2 pieces of plastic, a piece of foam, 4 screws and a 10 cent radio shack momentary switch...

and a cheap cord with a t.s. end

i think i will invest more than 5 u.s.d next time i buy a footswitch

and i like how the fs-1 has a moog logo ^_^

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Post by latigid on » Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:44 am

Nice - that does look cheap! I guess you could swap the switch with an NC (normally closed) one, or pull the reset switch out of an old PC and use that; should be similar in size.

Or, just part with your forty bucks, but I hope the FS-1 is better than the EP-1.

I've got something like this: http://www.beckettsmusic.co.uk/shop/Pro ... /z7278.jpg that I got very cheap. Inside is a microswitch similar to this: http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50358221/Microswitch.jpg

I wonder what the Moog one is like?

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Post by MarkM » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:21 am

I've not looked inside of my FS1, but it certainly seems sturdy enough as well as work nicely.
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Post by jamirokid » Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:42 am

[quote="latigid on"]Can you send an audio signal (e.g. a hand clap as quarter notes) from the sequencer - maybe out the headphone jack - to the tap input?

You know the MuRF needs three taps at least, right?

This is by far the best way to sync the murf. I use a snare sample running out of my motif to sync it. You can get 2 defferent effects depending on if you have the cable inserted in to the tap jack all the way or just enought to trigger the envelope/step. The latter is pretty cool cuz you can do different rhythms!
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Post by Bryan B » Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:39 am

As mentioned above, there is a way to advance the Murph step by step which is quite different than the tapping the tempo.

Moog sells an adapter for the Tap/Step input, or you can get a Stereo "Y" cable that splits into "Tip" and "Ring" outs. From there you can figure out which one does what and then program the steps with a gate or loud drum sound. I love this option, because I can program it in sync with my old analog drum machines using the trigger outs.

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