expression pedal question

sound research · Post by **sound research** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:30 pm

Hi~~I just bought the Ring Modulator. I was wondering what the expression pedal could do for the ring modulator. How can the 2 work together? I would appreciate any help.

Thanks

OysterRock · Post by **OysterRock** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:08 pm

The expression pedal is basically like controlling one of the knobs with your foot. Any one of the knobs on the moogerfooger, with the exception of DRIVE, can be controlled by the expression pedal so you don't have to twiddle the knobs with your hands while you're playing.

sound research · Post by **sound research** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:22 pm

ahh i see, thanks for the reply

redeyeflight · Post by **redeyeflight** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:45 am

BTW,
the absolute BEST expression pedal for the moogerfoogers is a modified ernie ball volume pedal (with the jacks on the front). I'm not exactly sure how to do it but a friend of mine has done this mod for me a couple of times and it really didn't look all that complicated-took him about ten minutes. The Ernie ball's smoothness beats just about any expression pedal out there! I use two for my MF-104Z and they're awesome!

asd · Post by **asd** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:29 am

redeye,
Do you have any more info about how to do the mod? I have an ernie ball vp (jr?) and really like it, but it works better for volume than cv control. (I think this is because the volume pot is exponential when a linear pot is what is better for cv control.) It would be great to mod it so that the last 10% of the pedal didn't control 90% of the cv...

redeyeflight · Post by **redeyeflight** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:54 am

I have had the new ernie ball volume pedals (not the jr versions) with the jacks in the front modded by my friend and they work really really well...sooo much better than the moog expression pedals. My friend actually has this mod with some pics listed in his blog on his website. You can acess it at: www.whitewizardelectronic.com it's a pretty easy mod if you know what you're doing with a soldering iron...I don't really so I leave it up to the experts. Anyway, I don't know if it works with the jr. but it certainly works well with the newer volume pedals with the jacks in the front. If you do the mod you have to get a stereo cable (one 1/4 inch jack to one 1/4 inch jack-NOT dual) and connect it to the out of the volume pedal and then it should work great. The volume pedal will also still work as a regualr volume pedal only it will work in reverse.

OysterRock · Post by **OysterRock** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:59 am

I just converted an old Dunlop bass wah I wasn't using into an expression pedal. It was the kind of wah pedal with a spring built into it so it returns to it original position. Very expressive!

Jeff Tanner · Post by **Jeff Tanner** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:33 am

You can get a VP Jr modded for Moog from www.toneczareffects.com. Very nice expression pedals.

jamirokid · Post by **jamirokid** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:21 am

the droning sunn wrote:Hi~~I just bought the Ring Modulator. I was wondering what the expression pedal could do for the ring modulator. How can the 2 work together? I would appreciate any help.

Thanks

Expression pedals can also extend the range of many of the knobs/parameters you are controlling. ie- if you turn the lfo rate knob all the way clockwise then use the exp. pedal it will go faster than without the pedal! sweet.

Josh

redeyeflight · Post by **redeyeflight** » Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:03 am

that modded vp junior looks pretty great although you can really do it yourself for a whole lot less money and it's really not that difficult at all

Alien8 · Post by **Alien8** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:54 pm

Another good option for the expression pedal is the BOSS FV-500H, with adjustable tension control to get it just right.

jucas · Post by **jucas** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:05 pm

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but I just got my Low pass filter and was wondering about expression pedals.

First, If one got a stereo volume pedal, could you theoretically control 2 parameters at once with it? To those with experience with more than one expression pedal, is there any point to this whatsoever (ie moving 2 controls simultaneously)?

Second, Alien 8 suggested the BOSS FV500H. ANyone have any idea what the impedances on those are... I didn't see it on boss's site and am pretty sick of having customer support emails ignored. Could the 500L work, or ernie ball's stero offering with a pot swap?

Finally, as I'd imagine that a selectable taper would be tricky for someone with minimal modification experience what taper do people prefer for expression pedals? Any links/etc (i know, I'm a noob and its not a tough mod) as the previously posted one is coming up dead for me?

Thanks for all the help so far. Your tolerance of my lack of knowledge is appreciated.

redeyeflight · Post by **redeyeflight** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:15 pm

i don't think you can control two params with the stereo vol pedal...the mod i know about only works with the mono vol pedal...pretty sure its one pedal=one parameter equation. one thing you could do is control multiple params with the control processor...might be more what you're looking for

OysterRock · Post by **OysterRock** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:25 pm

Actually, its one potentiometer = one parameter.

If the the stereo pedal uses a dual potentiometer and has two outputs (one for each pot) you would be able to control two parameters at the same time. I bet you could get some interesting sounds doing this.

redeyeflight · Post by **redeyeflight** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:27 pm

thats' true although you would need to figure out how to mod the stereo pedal to be an expression pedal...which might not be all that hard. probably be pretty cool too although you'd definately have more control with multiple exp pedals.

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