Overload control on new moog

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Overload control on new moog

Post by goldphinga » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:44 am

Does this control mean distortion can be manually added to the signal path of the new synth? One thing that the voyager misses is the ability to really drive the circuits for extra harmonics. Although it does distort its in a very polite manner!
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Post by writeroxie » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:58 am

i think its an 'overload' of the filter, not the signal output... but maybe it'd be assignable somehow?

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Re: Overload control on new moog

Post by GregAE » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:16 am

goldphinga wrote:Does this control mean distortion can be manually added to the signal path of the new synth? One thing that the voyager misses is the ability to really drive the circuits for extra harmonics. Although it does distort its in a very polite manner!
I believe the dedicated overdrive control in the new instrument is a first-of-it's-kind for a Moog Synthesizer, adding a new capability to a classic design.

Regarding the Voyager, you can overdrive the filter by placing a signal booster in the Voyager's Mix/Out loop. This is also a great place to insert OD and Distortion devices. Try a tube preamp box (ART, Presonus, etc.) here, too.

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Post by goldphinga » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:29 am

Think im gonna have to buy me the new synth as i reckon its gonna sound quite different to the voyager it also seems like the perfect gigging machine - i just hope the panel is backlit.


Once i know the price i might even sell my korgs ms20 to get one.
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Post by industrial_gypsy » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:11 am

I thought the Rogue had an overdrive facility?

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Post by GregAE » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:06 pm

industrial_gypsy wrote:I thought the Rogue had an overdrive facility?
"The (Rogue) mixer section allows both VCOs and the noise generator to be mixed together, with a slider controlling each level. The mixer can be pushed to overdrive (distort) the waveforms."

- The A-Z of Analogue Synthesizers, Peter Forrest, 1994

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Post by TPL » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:11 am

What is the name of this synth going to be? I have heard two different ones. One is pretty sweet while one sucks massively.
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Post by theglyph » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:02 am

I'm wondering if the Overdrive (overload) will be similar to the drive on the MF-101.

If used wisely it can create some wonderful timbres.

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Post by godzilla » Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:26 am

Sound Modifiers include a single VCLPF: 24 dB /Oct Moog Ladder filter, with filter Overload control and a single Output VCA. Filter parameters are:
Cutoff
Resonance
Kb. Control Amount (how much the Key CV modulates the Filter)
Filter Env. Amount (how much +/- the filter envelope modulates the filter)
Overload
the drive control on the mf 101 cortrols the gain of the VCA in the pedal

it looks like the overload control is part of the filter, also its called OVERLOAD not OVERDRIVE

i read somewhere, on some forum site where people were talking about the difference between synths, and someone said that the filters are the main factor in the sound and that different brands have different filter sounds.

then someone said that the reason they sound different is the way they are overloaded.

one of the reasons the tb 303 has such a distinctive sound is the way its filter is overloaded

maybe this new synth allows you to change the way the filter sounds without changing its function

btw i'm doing my best at repeating something i haven't read for some time, i think this was the basic idea but i may be wrong in parts, so sorry for any confusion/offense

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Post by Array » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:48 am

godzilla wrote:
Sound Modifiers include a single VCLPF: 24 dB /Oct Moog Ladder filter, with filter Overload control and a single Output VCA. Filter parameters are:
Cutoff
Resonance
Kb. Control Amount (how much the Key CV modulates the Filter)
Filter Env. Amount (how much +/- the filter envelope modulates the filter)
Overload
the drive control on the mf 101 cortrols the gain of the VCA in the pedal

it looks like the overload control is part of the filter, also its called OVERLOAD not OVERDRIVE

i read somewhere, on some forum site where people were talking about the difference between synths, and someone said that the filters are the main factor in the sound and that different brands have different filter sounds.

then someone said that the reason they sound different is the way they are overloaded.

one of the reasons the tb 303 has such a distinctive sound is the way its filter is overloaded

maybe this new synth allows you to change the way the filter sounds without changing its function

btw i'm doing my best at repeating something i haven't read for some time, i think this was the basic idea but i may be wrong in parts, so sorry for any confusion/offense
I think the distinct sound of the TB-303 has more to do with the fact that its filter is an 18db diode ladder filter. Not sure about overloading...but people sure love overdriving that sound.

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