A big suggestion I hope Moog will consider...

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jmcecil
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Re: A big suggestion I hope Moog will consider...

Post by jmcecil » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:07 am

I just bought 5 1/8 to 1/4 cables. Works fine.

bt2513
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Re: A big suggestion I hope Moog will consider...

Post by bt2513 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:41 am

jmcecil wrote:I just bought 5 1/8 to 1/4 cables. Works fine.
Was going to say - for about $60 I could get all the cables I would possibly need. Sounds a lot cheaper than buying a new synth just for bigger jacks.

bt2513
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Re: A big suggestion I hope Moog will consider...

Post by bt2513 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:45 am

Why not just make your own patchbay?

Take an aluminum panel or project box and drill 8-10 holes for 1/8" jacks. Drill the same number of holes for 1/4" jacks. Solder the tips and grounds together for each jack pair.

This would cost about the same as 8-10 specialized cables but would be a fairly straight forward, simple solution to a simple problem.

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Re: A big suggestion I hope Moog will consider...

Post by Mattew96 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:10 pm

I'm not saying there aren't workarounds to this problem. What I am saying is that when I have a billion 1/4 inch cables and devices, the added inconvenience of having 1/8 inch jacks dominating this module is enough to make me and I'm sure others too pass it by. It looks like a great module, but I'd be more inclined to buy it if I could just buy, plug, and play, rather than buy it and a whole bunch of other things, modify it or set up a mass jumble of cables either to a patchbay (which would be slightly difficult to achieve due to the front facing jacks) or (worse) half to itself and half to other 1/4 inch synths, and only then be able to play it. I already have enough difficulty with massive midi setups and the patch bay centralizing all of my Voyager's I/O.

Actually, after writing all of that I've come to a conclusion. For the scope of this synth, Moog really doesn't care so much about synthesists like me. They are aiming at the eurorack market, and I respect that. It's a super concept. But for people who haven't adopted that format, this is like a slightly misshapen puzzle piece. You might be able to jam it in place, but it wasn't designed with the intent to be there in the first place. In essence, this synth simply wasn't designed for me or people like me, and that's okay. If we really really love it and its concept, we can make it fit and enjoy it and use it, but otherwise we would have to either wait for a new semimodular product or just go straight to Moog's modular line up.

For me personally, I really like the concept at the price point, but I have enough fiddling and work to do with other vintage instruments than worry about shoehorning this one in to the "make it work" projects. Cables are expensive, and the alternative of making them takes time. By the time I'm done adjusting for costs like that it moves the price point high enough that it loses its worth to me. That's just my own personal opinion, at least. It'd be nice for Moog to release a 1/4 inch version of this, or another cheap semimodular with 1/4 inchers down the line, but for now, for me, it just doesn't fit my puzzle.

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Re: A big suggestion I hope Moog will consider...

Post by mmarsh100 » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:00 pm

I have a pretty large investment in 1/4" 5U modular. But since the beginning I have incorporated Frac modules with 1/8" jacks. A modular, to my mind, is about mix and match. I have a small amount of Euro now as well. 1/4", 1/8", banana, 5U, Euro, Frac, whatever, I don't care if the module is one that I want. Just my opinion, it's what works for me.

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