Can a Sub 37 sound like this..?

[mmarsh100]

It's a good solution to fatten things up for sure. If you listen to the demo, I've detuned each oscillator *just* a bit. Still, the third oscillator makes a big difference!

[GregVDS]

I've just been researching the Werkstatt some more. I can follow instructions and solder but have no skills beyond that. Building the actual kit looks easy but are there any idiots guides to adding a midi in to it?

My exact thoughts: where is the MIDI IN on the Werkstatt? I suppose somehow it must be added. But there, (MIDI) I'm lost.

Any help most welcome,

Greg

[le bouch]

I've just been researching the Werkstatt some more. I can follow instructions and solder but have no skills beyond that. Building the actual kit looks easy but are there any idiots guides to adding a midi in to it?

My exact thoughts: where is the MIDI IN on the Werkstatt? I suppose somehow it must be added. But there, (MIDI) I'm lost.

Any help most welcome,

Greg

Here's what I found: https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1617

A bit beyond my skills though. I would pay someone to do this for me

[mmarsh100]

While not difficult, adding MIDI is not really a beginners thing. I used this: http://www.midi-hardware.com/index.php? ... uct=MINIcv and didn't even hook up the Gate (yet).

As an alternative, for about the same price you can get a MicroBrute with MIDI built in and it is a great little synth on its own.

[ChiLam]

Yep! Either the Micro or Minibrute are a nice compliment to the Sub37. I have just been playing around with using the Minibrute as a 3rd Oscillator to the 37 and it works very nicely indeed - definitely adds that extra phasing which was missing from the 2 OSC tone.

[GregVDS]

Alternatively, there are also the

Vermona Mono Lancet and the Doepfer Dark Energy II. Any comment about these?

Greg

[mattyp]

Ive tried this with a dsi mopho but the mopho oscillators are a little brighter than the moog's so had to filter it a little to match. I also need to set midi filters so that either the sub 37 doesn't transmit cc data or the mopho ignores it. Haven't yet tried with the ms20 mini.

[mmarsh100]

Vermona Mono Lancet and the Doepfer Dark Energy II. Any comment about these?

Nothing specific other than to say any synth with mid will work. Also, these are a little more expensive. I haven't used either...

[ozfunghi]

Yes, any synth can be used this way (I use a Werkstatt):

* Connect MIDI OUT of 37 to Synth
* Connect Audio out of Synth to Ext IN of 37
* Use Ext/FB Mixer knob on 37 to add in the Synth

NOTE: I turn up the filter all the way on the Werkstatt and set all modulation off to get pure oscillator out. This gives me a nice 3-Osc sound in the Sub 37: https://soundcloud.com/mmarsh/3oscdemo.

In the case of a Little Phatty + a Slim Phatty, is there an advantage to routing the Slim Phatty audio out through the Little Phatty audio in, over just combining the two in a mixer? I'm asking because a Slim Phatty basically is a Little Phatty without the keyboard, meaning they have the exact same filter etc.

[markthom]

Hi folks,
this topic caught my interest, and based on mmarsh100's post, I thought I would try extending the sound of the Sub 37 with a Korg Volca Bass - it was a simple job to hook up a midi cable and feed the output of the volca back in to the Sub 37 - sounds really big, especially if you detune the 3 volca oscillators slightly - very nice to have this option on hand, thanks for the suggestion

[le bouch]

Hi folks,
this topic caught my interest, and based on mmarsh100's post, I thought I would try extending the sound of the Sub 37 with a Korg Volca Bass - it was a simple job to hook up a midi cable and feed the output of the volca back in to the Sub 37 - sounds really big, especially if you detune the 3 volca oscillators slightly - very nice to have this option on hand, thanks for the suggestion

What happens when the Volca is midi'd and you turn up the glide on the Sub? Does / can the Volca glide too?

[markthom]

The Glide adjustments don't seem to affect the volca , however the volca midi implementation chart does that the glide / slide value can be altered by using CC5 (when global parameter MIDI RX ShortMessage is set to ON) - tbh I'm not sure what the bit in brackets actually means or how I would check if it is on