New Moog Poly???

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New Moog Poly???

Post by basssfx » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:32 pm

With all this talk of new products, I was thinking about the Moog polyphonic synth idea. I realise you could effectively buy 16 Voyager RMEs and assign each to a MIDI channel. With a MIDI master keyboard, you would have a very nice poly!

From the moog site, 16 x $2395 = $38320!!! Which is alot of money by anyone's standards.

Now, you would have 16 ch of polyphony, but the synth would be polytimbral. Do we need 16 ch of polytimbral-ness? I don't think so.

So, use a standard Voyager with one set of knobs, and use mults. to send all the CV signals to each component of each channel. The result would be a monotimbral polyphonic synth with a useable (who says the Voyager isn't useable!) interface.

Now by no means am I an expert, so please feel free to tell me how it is.


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Post by OysterRock » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:39 pm

I would like to see a poly expander for the Voyager. Something like the the RME except no knobs, no display, no nuthin... just a rackmount box. Only MIDI and audio in/out. A couple hundred a pop, I'd buy a few...

That's just what I'd want though, everyone feel free to pick apart my suggestion and tell me how their idea is better :)

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Post by basssfx » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:44 pm

How would you control each setting? Would it be possible to have 16 voices playing and twiddle knobs at the same time? I.e would you have enough MIDI channels? (You would have to be some kind of poly-octapus to do this though).

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Post by OysterRock » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:47 pm

You would have to have a Voyager (or RME) as the master controller. You'd set it up just like you set up the RMEs as poly expanders. The master Voyager would control all the expanders, it would act like a normal polysynth.

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Post by basssfx » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:56 pm

Yup, that was exactly what I was thinking. Moog could possibly also make a 16ch poly-expander, as it would be cheaper than buying 16 (15 if you already had a Voyager) RMEs or single channel poly-expanders

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Post by Array » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:37 pm

OysterRock wrote:I would like to see a poly expander for the Voyager. Something like the the RME except no knobs, no display, no nuthin... just a rackmount box. Only MIDI and audio in/out. A couple hundred a pop, I'd buy a few...

That's just what I'd want though, everyone feel free to pick apart my suggestion and tell me how their idea is better :)
A couple hundred a pop? How do you suggest this will be accomplished?

If Moog Music does release a new polyphonic synthesizer, I would want it to be a product which is seperate from the Voyager. In fact, it most likely would be. It would probably be digitally controlled in order to save money, space, and excess heat. I dont think that many people would be thrilled with the idea of slopping digitally controller oscillators and filters onto their Voyager....the additional voices just wouldnt sound/behave in the same manner.

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Post by theglyph » Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:05 pm

A poly would be nice but i'm sure it would be expensive ( >$3000 ).

I would like to see Moog release a modern version of the Micromoog.

Benefits? You can get the Moog sound for less than $1000. It would be much more portable than a Voyager. Moog can make $ without having to rely on selling wall clocks and belt buckles. We wouldn't have to go through ebay to get an inexpenisve Moog.

Maybe they can call it the Micromoog Discovery!

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Post by Arpmoogscience » Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:54 pm

I would be happy a 8 voice poly

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Post by sir_dss » Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:59 pm

Moog makes a cheaper synth and a synth that can become polyphonic called...

The Voyager RME!

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Post by Array » Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:51 pm

sir_dss wrote:Moog makes a cheaper synth and a synth that can become polyphonic called...

The Voyager RME!
Except for the fact that this isnt an affordable solution, nor is it portable. Some people here go on gigs you know (not me though).

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Post by sir_dss » Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:29 pm

Then use a softsynth(Arturia MiniMoog) with the Voyager as a controler and through the EXT IN. That will make it cheap and polyphonic.

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Post by MC » Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:48 pm

sir_dss wrote:Then use a softsynth(Arturia MiniMoog) with the Voyager as a controler and through the EXT IN. That will make it cheap and polyphonic.
I played with the Arturia Minimoog at winter NAMM2005. It doesn't sound like a Minimoog to my ears, and I use both model D and Voyager at home. The weak point is the filter.

Arturia might be cheap, but it doesn't sound like a moog.

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Post by sir_dss » Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:03 pm

Ok...

What are you playing now?

How about a Prophet 5?

Moog isn't going to make a Polyphonic synth that what the RME addressed.

And the Voyager is already a $3000+ synth.

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Post by OysterRock » Mon Dec 26, 2005 8:06 pm

Array wrote:
OysterRock wrote:I would like to see a poly expander for the Voyager. Something like the the RME except no knobs, no display, no nuthin... just a rackmount box. Only MIDI and audio in/out. A couple hundred a pop, I'd buy a few...

That's just what I'd want though, everyone feel free to pick apart my suggestion and tell me how their idea is better :)
A couple hundred a pop? How do you suggest this will be accomplished?

If Moog Music does release a new polyphonic synthesizer, I would want it to be a product which is seperate from the Voyager. In fact, it most likely would be. It would probably be digitally controlled in order to save money, space, and excess heat. I dont think that many people would be thrilled with the idea of slopping digitally controller oscillators and filters onto their Voyager....the additional voices just wouldnt sound/behave in the same manner.
Who said anything about digitally controlled? A simple one voice expander that is a stripped down RME. $500-800. Very do-able.

I'm just thinking out loud of what I'd like. I don't really care what you think or what you would like, though :wink:

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