Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

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Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by stiiiiiiive » Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:06 am

Hi Mooguys.

Last week-end, patching around, I noticed the square LFO output of theCP-251 did not trig the EHX 8StepProgram, while the LFO output on the VX-351 did. As per the CP manual, the LFO signal is going from -2.5V to +2.5V.

What about hte Voyager's LFO output signal?... Is it 0V to 5V?
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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by ColorForm2113 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:59 am

yes, i believe the voyager lfo is 0 to +5V
My modular so far: Q104, Q106 x2, Q107, Q108, Q109 x2 , Q116, Q118, Q127 w/Q140, Q130, STG Wave Folder, Mixer and Mankato playing with Moog Voyager, VX-351, CP-251, MF-104M x2 ( STEREO!) Volca Beats and Bass, Arturia Beat step

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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by stiiiiiiive » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:30 am

Hmm that would explain. I'll try to see whether offsetting the CP's LFO output works.

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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by stiiiiiiive » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:39 am

Ok, got it! From the 8StepProgram manual:

The clock signal must be between 0V and 5V. If the clock signal goes below 0V, the 8-STEP may not be able to properly read the external clock signal.

Definitely trying to offset the CP's LFO output by +2.5V.

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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by thealien666 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:27 pm

Couldn't you use the Four Input Mixer's offset knob of the CP251 to do that perhaps ? (or maybe one of the active attenuators for that matter ?)
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Post by stiiiiiiive » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:20 pm

Yep Alain, that's exactly what I've tried and it worked :)

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Post by thealien666 » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:02 pm

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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by Just Me » Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:16 pm

You could put a rectifier on the output and make it go positive with the benefit of doubling clock rate.
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Post by stiiiiiiive » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:49 pm

Ture, but I don't think I have one. Is there a rectifier on the CP-251?

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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by ColorForm2113 » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:05 pm

No that's one of the few things the cp251 can't do.
My modular so far: Q104, Q106 x2, Q107, Q108, Q109 x2 , Q116, Q118, Q127 w/Q140, Q130, STG Wave Folder, Mixer and Mankato playing with Moog Voyager, VX-351, CP-251, MF-104M x2 ( STEREO!) Volca Beats and Bass, Arturia Beat step

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Re: Voyager's LFO ouptut voltage

Post by Just Me » Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:29 pm

But, you can put a bridge rectifier chip inside the end of a patch cable and make a rectifier cable or put a rectifier in a small experimenter case with a couple of 1/4" jacks. (Use a bigger box and make a rectifier, passive attenuator, mult box. Whatever you desire. Easy stuff with no circuit card and minimal easy soldering. Great beginner stuff that is functional.)
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