How shall I say this? Me, a disgrace to the Voyager perhaps.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:01 am

Well, I'm amazed at how you guys talk so "technical" all the time. it is so confusing. I'm just getting started with my synths, and i feel like a fool, as if i will never progress or something. My Voyager has barely got out of neutral.

No matter what stuff i read, i still can't understand wha tdoes what, although i've learnt a little about the ADSR envelope, and the modulation and LFO.

As for the disgrace, you really don't want to see how i've got it all set up. Don't go to my site, or else you'll see just how bad it is.

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:00 pm

Hey man....

You MUST stop thinking in terms of "right" and "wrong" and of "good" and "bad". Don't you have anyone to hang out with in person that likes synths? A friend just told me that all synth/electronic duos have this split between one guy who does all the tech/programing and the other does the arangements. From Suicide to Soft Cell all the way to Auchtec(spell) and other IDM groups.

Are you just trying to get people to go to your website or something?

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 8:53 pm

I really have no other friends to help me out. I know this musician, who used to own a Korg, but he reall yknows nothing about synths, and said he wish he could help me, but he can't. Are there any books out there specific to thr Minimoog voyager?

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:50 am

man...

What a drag not to have anyone to hang with and geek out talking about synths. You must be able to meet new people who you have some sort connection with in Britain. How about meeting someone at a show? I've always seen that sort of thing work. I mean, if you and someone you're about to meet find each other at a show for a band you already have a mutual affection for. That says ALOT. Dance clubs same thing.

By the way what sort of thing would you want to do? I may be able to direct you to some cool people I've heard of in Brighton. They may be a bit "Indy" but that goes beyond that twee, and lo-fi styles.

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:52 am

...I ment "indi".

elirentz · Post by **elirentz** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:35 pm

The voyager manual is a pretty good start then the internet has all you need to know besides just hands-on experience.

MoogieMark · Post by **MoogieMark** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:46 pm

The Wizoo series of books are a great primer on analog synthesis. You should be able to find them on Amazon.com.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:51 pm

If I had a credit card, I would think about buying them.

Kevin Bowden · Post by **Kevin Bowden** » Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:19 pm

Have a go at some of the past articles from Sound On Sound magazine (www.soundonsound.com). Try going to Articles, then Techniques.

You can pic the mag up in most major newsagents.

You could also try getting hold of a full set of Electronics & Music Maker mags (now defunkt I believe).

Kevin Bowden · Post by **Kevin Bowden** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:02 am

Please don't limit yourself to this site either. Go try out Moog on www.the-gas-station.com and also the mmvoyager group on Yahoo.

The Gas Station also has some stuff on Music Theory & Practice which you might find useful.

Hehe - after all, 'tis the season to give unto others.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 7:53 am

Kevin Bowden wrote:Please don't limit yourself to this site either. Go try out Moog on www.the-gas-station.com and also the mmvoyager group on Yahoo.

The Gas Station also has some stuff on Music Theory & Practice which you might find useful.

Hehe - after all, 'tis the season to give unto others.

I just need one person. Just one bloody person in my area to discuss synths with. Unfortunately, it appears there's nobody,

Cruel Hoax · Post by **Cruel Hoax** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:45 pm

So find out for yourself! Don't whine about it. Balls, man, I managed to learn synthesis, and I grew up in the middle of nowhere. Hometown population: 1200. Yes, twelve hundred. And this before the internet, and with only 5 channels that'd come in on TV.
A grand total of zero people besides myself even knew what a synthesizer was. ("That's like an electric piano, right? So how come you can only play a few notes if it's so much better than a piano?")

Are there any books out there specific to thr Minimoog voyager?

Yes there are, and you got suggestions.

If I had a credit card, I would think about buying them.

So why did you ask for suggestions?

Is there no library somewhere near you? Can you get there? (For me, it was an hour's drive away.)

Really, there's no excuse for not learning all you can. You just need to look. Have some initiative. Did you really save up to buy a Voyager, while all the while having no clue what it is or how to use it?

You've chosen an Aston Martin for your first car to learn to drive with. I'm not sure it's the best choice for somebody just starting to drive. Nevertheless, you've got one. I'm am sure that the information about it is readily available. Look for "Keyboard Basics" then "Keyboard Technique" published by Hal Leonard. They're quite old, but so is the theory behind most of the Voyager.

Just do it, man!

-Hoax

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 10:58 pm

You have failed to appreciate how crap this country is for synth enthusuasts.

I have been using synthesizers for exactly 2 months now, and I learn something new every day.

Still cant see the Voyager making "infinite sounds"

courtney214 · Post by **courtney214** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:55 pm

RE: "You have failed to appreciate how crap this country is for synth enthusuasts."

Surely, you can't be serious! Duran Duran... Pet Shop Boys... Fat Boy Slim... Gary Numan... OMD... Chemical Brothers... Depeche Mode -- just for starters!

And that's not including the fact that Techno/Trance/House etc. is much bigger in your country than in the States. I regularly buy cd's from Ministry of Sound too -- my first choice in purchasing Techno/Dance (and everything in between) music.

I don't live there, but I sure would love to visit! So much in the way of electronic music has come from your Country, that, I'm totally shocked that you so easily dismiss it all as insignificant! No way! You're not from Afghanistan... Well, I assume anyway...

I will say that I'm new to actually using synths as well. I think another individual suggested learning on a Roland SH-101 and then transporting what you learn on that simpler synth to your Voyager.

I second that motion. So much so that that is exactly what I'm doing. Surely, if you can afford to spend $3500.00 (US) on a Voyager, you can afford $300 -- $500 (generally) for a SH-101. Check eBay. While you're at it, throw in a book from Wizoo while on you're shopping spree (as previously suggested).

My experience is that I had to finally just quit talking about it and just do it. I'm finally learning something too (imagine that) -- and it's really coming pretty easily and quickly.

Maybe you'll hear my music in the club or radio someday! Well, it doesn't hurt to dream, I guess...

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:30 pm

I meant I have no friends to help me out with the synth.

But anyway, I was giving someone a demonstration on msn last night. I plugged the Voyager into the microphone input, and started a "voice conversation".

He was impressed. And he is a really tough guy to please.