Sub Phatty vs. MiniMoog

[gencomprodukts]

Hi There
I'm a Memorymoog owner since many years (and many other vintage gear) and i've received a Sub Phatty some days ago. I was also a Model D user for many years (sold some years ago).
All i can say is that i've been easily able to recreate patches from my Memorymoog when used monophonically (one voice card assigned).
Realy impressed by the Sub Phatty! Was'nt with previous new gear from Moog (too modern sounding and a bit sterile for me) but this time they realy did a great job.
It realy can sound "old school" if programming with care and you can get Minimoog's (and in my case Memorymoog's) sounds out of it.
Hope this help

[miliksitek]

Don't know about the Fooger but I use MIDI via DIN

Same here,
Michael

[mmarsh100]

Yeah, about that MiniBrute: it stopped worked just moments after posting about it above. The thing is, that was my *third* (and last) unit - the others died as well. The design is killer, the implementation really sucks. I strongly recommend against buying one. My Sub Phatty on the other hand has been a rock, and it sounds better and it is more versatile. Save your pennies, buy the Sub.

[krowamlotkowa]

Hi There
All i can say is that i've been easily able to recreate patches from my Memorymoog when used monophonically (one voice card assigned).

Yes, I agree, I mean I have the same observations, I agree with the friend gencomprodukts.

[psr]

Yeah, about that MiniBrute: it stopped worked just moments after posting about it above. The thing is, that was my *third* (and last) unit - the others died as well. The design is killer, the implementation really sucks. I strongly recommend against buying one. My Sub Phatty on the other hand has been a rock, and it sounds better and it is more versatile. Save your pennies, buy the Sub.

oh man... didnt work out huh? I have a minibrute. I like it. I was wondering how it compares to the Sub. I thought it would be complimentary but After reading that I'm not so sure. Would be nice to own a sub especially if it compares so closely to these other classic vintage moog synths

[mmarsh100]

I'm going to have to take my comment about the MiniBrute back. It was user error, I'm embarrassed to say. Patching in some stuff to the jacks in back I inadvertently flipped the Gate Source switch a real dumba$$ move, and I really should have known better. The MiniBrute is an excellent synth, a good compliment to the Sub. I still worry about the build quality, though, it seems that the new MicroBrute had an assembly issue where the Mod wheel was installed incorrectly on the first batch of machines. That's been sorted out on the forum, but the last thing I want to do with a new synth is open it up :/ Still, at $299, I have one on order

[stiiiiiiive]

I'm going to have to take my comment about the MiniBrute back. It was user error, I'm embarrassed to say.

I have to say I apreciate that kind of honesty on the forums. Free criticism is too often encountered. Thanks for precising this

[mmarsh100]

Free criticism is too often encountered.

Yeah, I hear you. It's important to make comments like that correct, and maybe to own up to user error. I'm pretty experienced with this stuff (even built my own MOTM-based modular) but that doesn't mean I can't be an ass-hat once in a while

[unfiltered37]

The Sub Phatty is the modern incarnation of the model D's sound IMO. It sounds different, obviously, but has the same type of mean growl that very few synths, especially modern ones have.

But even with the "meanness" it is still pretty clean cut or modern sounding, while the model D is grittier on the edges when the filter is driven. Also, the noise on Sub, while very cool and the best I have heard on a modern keyboard synth, is a distant second to the Model D, whose pink and red noise as subtle modulators are the coolest and most analog sounding I have heard.

Obviously, given the choice, the model D is far superior, but the Sub is the best new synth as far as sound goes IMO.