Sub Phatty beta firmware - final bug roundup

[Amos]

Hi, everyone -- here's another update -- this one should fix the USB disconnection problems, I hope.

http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/su ... _1_4_1.syx
(same old update instructions: http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/su ... EAD-ME.txt)

If you have experienced stuck notes, USB disconnection, or other MIDI problems -- please give this new version a good work-out and let me know how it performs for you.

Thank you!

-Amos


edit: also, I've implemented GM2-compatible Scale/Octave tuning, and Coarse/ FIne Tune control...
be sure you download today's "v243_1_4_1" file, above.

http://www.midi.org/techspecs/ca25.pdf

http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midituning.php
(scale/octave tunings, 1-byte and 2-byte types are implemented)

[rod888999]

Hi there!

I've found a bug where when adjusting the pitch bend range in shift mode to be one octave, and exiting shift mode, a few minutes later the pitch bend range changes back to being a tone. It doesn't remember that I just changed it to be an octave.

I presume that after the firmware is confirmed, the finalised version will be available for download here? http://www.moogmusic.com/products/phatt ... nloads-tab

Thanks!

[nofuturenocore]

Hello Amos, I used the 1.4.1 version for two hours without any disconnection and the problem about EG Filter and Amp Reset and Multi trigger that doesn't respond seems to be solved too. I'll make a long session later today or tomorrow to be sure of that.

Thanks.Have a good WE !

[IgorCristo]

Hello Amos!

I wanted to suggest a new feature wich I think wouldn't be very hard.

I'd like to be able to use the Sub's keyboard to control external gear without controlling it's own sound. Only the keyboard part. This would be excelent because you can use the iPad as an arpeggiator, with Apps like StepPolyArp. I tried it other day and got some glitches because it plays the notes of a chord before the actual arpeggiator begins to work.

I don't know if this is hard to do, but my guess is that it isn't really hard.

Cheers!

[Amos]

I'd like to be able to use the Sub's keyboard to control external gear without controlling it's own sound.

This sounds like a job for Local Control, if I understand your scenario correctly... try turning it (Local control) off, and see if that's what you wanted. The keys then send MIDI only, and you only get sound if you send MIDI to the synth.

[Benzebub]

I'd like to be able to use the Sub's keyboard to control external gear without controlling it's own sound.

This sounds like a job for Local Control, if I understand your scenario correctly... try turning it (Local control) off, and see if that's what you wanted. The keys then send MIDI only, and you only get sound if you send MIDI to the synth.

I don't think this is what was asked for, but it would be nice to have the option to disable the keyboard locally while still being able to control the synth itself. This could be useful for sending the keyboard to an arpeggiator or another type of processor for the notes and then have it sent back to the unit to play it. Would this be possible?

[IgorCristo]

Yes, with local control off it works, but then I'm not able to control the knobs!

Could you make only "Keyboard Local Control OFF"?

[sp00ge]

Feature Request:

I save most of my patches in their corresponding projects folders. As such it would be helpful if the Save/Load buttons retained the last save/load location while the Librarian function always pointed to the standard Save/Load location.

FYI 1.41 firmware seems to have cured all of my PT10 disconnects. Much appreciated!

[barryfell]

I'd like to be able to use the Sub's keyboard to control external gear without controlling it's own sound.

This sounds like a job for Local Control, if I understand your scenario correctly... try turning it (Local control) off, and see if that's what you wanted. The keys then send MIDI only, and you only get sound if you send MIDI to the synth.

I don't think this is what was asked for, but it would be nice to have the option to disable the keyboard locally while still being able to control the synth itself. This could be useful for sending the keyboard to an arpeggiator or another type of processor for the notes and then have it sent back to the unit to play it. Would this be possible?

This is already how it works. There is always control of the knobs. I can do as you say with an arpeggiator running in my DAW for example, where the keys send midi data to the arpeggiator then the arpeggiator sends arpeggiated midi notes back to the synth and it plays.

[barryfell]

Yes, with local control off it works, but then I'm not able to control the knobs!

Could you make only "Keyboard Local Control OFF"?

Are you saying you're getting sound from the synth via midi note data sent to it from another source but the knobs are unresponsive? If so, something is wrong with your setup or synth. You should always be able to control the knobs, as it's only the keyboard that is local control off.

[Benzebub]

I'd like to be able to use the Sub's keyboard to control external gear without controlling it's own sound.

This sounds like a job for Local Control, if I understand your scenario correctly... try turning it (Local control) off, and see if that's what you wanted. The keys then send MIDI only, and you only get sound if you send MIDI to the synth.

I don't think this is what was asked for, but it would be nice to have the option to disable the keyboard locally while still being able to control the synth itself. This could be useful for sending the keyboard to an arpeggiator or another type of processor for the notes and then have it sent back to the unit to play it. Would this be possible?

This is already how it works. There is always control of the knobs. I can do as you say with an arpeggiator running in my DAW for example, where the keys send midi data to the arpeggiator then the arpeggiator sends arpeggiated midi notes back to the synth and it plays.

Just tried connecting an external keyboard via MIDI to the SubP and disabled local control. I am not able to control the phatty from the panel this way while playing it. Is your DAW filtering only the notes and just passing back the controls to itself?
EDIT: Autocorrect.

[barryfell]

I'd like to be able to use the Sub's keyboard to control external gear without controlling it's own sound.

This sounds like a job for Local Control, if I understand your scenario correctly... try turning it (Local control) off, and see if that's what you wanted. The keys then send MIDI only, and you only get sound if you send MIDI to the synth.

I don't think this is what was asked for, but it would be nice to have the option to disable the keyboard locally while still being able to control the synth itself. This could be useful for sending the keyboard to an arpeggiator or another type of processor for the notes and then have it sent back to the unit to play it. Would this be possible?

This is already how it works. There is always control of the knobs. I can do as you say with an arpeggiator running in my DAW for example, where the keys send midi data to the arpeggiator then the arpeggiator sends arpeggiated midi notes back to the synth and it plays.

Just tried connecting an external keyboard via MIDI to the SubP and disabled local control. I am not able to control the phatty from the panel this way while playing it. Is your DAW filtering only the notes and just passing back the controls to itself?
EDIT: Autocorrect.

Something is wrong then as the panel should always retain control of the sound produced from the SubP under every set up. My DAW isn't filtering anything. It's either receiving or transmitting note and control MIDI data to the SubP. The only thing in the set up that is getting filtered is the direct triggering of notes on the SubP from it's keyboard, as set by local control ON/OFF. (i.e. with OFF set it only triggers notes when the MIDI data is received back from the DAW, so as not to have 2 notes trying to play at once on the SubP)

Are you using the latest firmware? Either way, worth a reflash as it sounds like you have a serious individual issue with your SubP.

[IgorCristo]

I'll try that once again later. I wasn't able to control the Sub with it's knobs either. Running the last 1.4.0 OS. Maybe it was something at that moment... I'll take a look if there's something wrong with my configurations then.

[IgorCristo]

Just tested it...

Here's how it's working:
- When local control is OFF, you can only control the internal knobs if you allow them to send MIDI to the DAW/App/Software you're using. When local control is OFF you can't control the keyboard/knobs directly, and you control it via MIDI. Some of you may like this, but I don't like stuck with 7-bit MIDI.
- If you use MIDI OUT Filter and allows only the passage of the keyboard notes, you can't control the Sub Phatty over MIDI, and you don't get any kind of sonic change while moving the knobs. I don't think this is a bug with my own Sub, but let me know if it is!

What am I looking for:
- A solution that makes the LOCAL CONTROLL OFF only for the key part, while being able to control the Sub's knobs to alter parameters in real time. This would be the best solution for using external arpeggiators just to have some fun with the Sub Phatty.

[Amos]

got it... can do.