Voyager + Moogerfoogers Limitations

[yornav]

Having the Voyager ,mf ring mod, mf Phaser, Mf Low Pass, Mf delay and Mf cluster flux. I already had allot of fun with them separately. But never as One system.

I stumble upon limitations every time I try to connect my foogers to the voyager. The Idea was to create an effect chain... as much as stereo possible.
So what do we have. A Voyager with STEREO out. Al Foogers are mono in. And cluster flux has stereo out. But phaser also has aux out which can be used for stereo effects...

How do I best connect them???

There is an insert on the voyager So I would think that All mono effects can be put there in chain. Because If I want to use spacing (filter) from the voyager then I can never put effects on the stereo output of the voyager Because the MF effects only are mono input? I also can never feed the two outputs of the Phaser, the delay or the cluster flux stereo out into each other or the voyager.

WTF???

Any suggestions?

[thealien666]

Buy a second of each MoogerFooger effects you have, and run two separate effect line. One for each stereo channel.

[EMwhite]

Or just run mono out of your Voyager, placing the stereo effects at the end of your chain. Certainly, you'll want TWO 104Z/Ms : ) but since there is no Chrous built into the Voyager, unless you are using the Filter Spacing, you are really not getting much in the way of Stereo effect.

[thealien666]

The Voyager was never meant as a truly "stereo" synthesizer. There's not even a PAN parameter anywhere on it, and there is no way to send each oscillators to either one of the two filters ! The two outputs were just a convenient way to access each filter output...

A real stereo synth would have a panning parameter to send different sound source to either one of each stereo channels (as on some polyphonic models from Oberheim, or Ensoniq, just to name those).

[unfiltered37]

Well, technically there's no such thing as a "real" stereo synth, other than samplers that capture an acoustic source with multiple mics, but as far as analog synths go, stereo doesn't really exist. You just have dual mono with fading between the outs. The same thing can be achieved with a voyager and a mixer.

But to your question, I think you might be suffering from the common "I need to use everything" syndrome. While it is good to learn all the functions, trying to use everything all the time will just be limiting and inefficient. As you get more into your gear and the functions become intuitive, you no longer try to use every single function and instead have an idea of what you want to do, and use your skill to make it happen given the tools you have.

I have found that just a model D and a 104z can be almost infinitely flexible, without even using any CV. Add another fooger and some cables, and it is almost impossible to run out of new ideas.

However when you have a voyager and multiple foogers with mad CV's, it can get out of control, and you have to just keep it simple, or you will get overwhelmed. There is no right way to normal your setup, in fact maybe you should be changing it constantly noting what works and what doesn't.

[Vsyevolod]

I have all 7 flavours of Fooger with a couple duplicates. Sometimes I use them as a complete unit unto themselves (starting with the FreqBoxes as oscillators), and run the Cluster Flux as the final output in stereo. Other times, I run them in mono through the insert jack on my Voyager and run stereo out of the Voyager. You don't get to do better than that with these puppies. Either way, I get stereo and that's just frosting on an otherwise very nice tasting cake.

You want stereo? Make whatever is last in your chain be one with stereo outputs. Even if it's a digital signal processor.

Stephen




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