Predictions for new Moog Products this year

[hooshirn]

I predict a excessively polyphonic flatulence based oscillation station, a massive cheesy chord squeezer of a crowd please'r for the parlor music league's

Perhaps a triple chrome plated gonzo mono with 64 Buick hubcap's welded on it, testament to the glory of old school Liberace pointless riff running in the grand jubilation of musical masturbation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqRp97YHzM

I just thought this was a funny vid in a 9 year old juvenile sort of way even if I am just a bit the jealous hater

Seriously though I can't imagine anything cooler that this Voyager XL I been messing with, working with the second LFO through the lag and intenuater and using the touch pad
on the drum patches frigg'n assume messing with both lfo's, amazed at the expressive sounds that are coming out of the depths of this thing.

[Alien8]

I think we will see Animoog 2.5 at some point, but certainly Animoog 2.0 for iPhone first.

Filtratron will be updated with some neat new little features making it more useful in the iOS environment.

Another redone Moogerfooger, and probably the filter.

Another 500 series - the phaser or ring mod for sure.

MP-201 v2 will probably surface this year too... With Animoog being so big and able to communicate CV, it only makes sense that Moog provides a link between MIDI and CV with a boat load of extra features and controls.

[nuno]

A MIDIfied cp251 or a sort of hybrid between that and the MP201. No need for a gas pedal like the MP201, just a couple of exp. pedal inputs. With an LFO designer too.

... Wait, that's not really a prediction, more like a wishlist

[Alien8]

The Moog Piano. Imagine a grand or upright piano with LEV-96 / Moog guitar goodness. I believe that would be analog polyphony oscillation.

Given the price of the Moog guitar at about $500 / string that would make the piano about $44,000.

[moogsaurus]

Hmmm...
Dont know why Moog never re-issued the original minimoog ? everybody else has done it! unfortunately they failed for one reason or another (identity crisis?) I considered buying one of the "Welsh" ones in the 90's they were awarded a grant from the welsh office to go towards production, last I heard they took your money upfront and 3 - 4 months later - you got a Minimoog! a wee bit long to wait (obviously not rolling off the production line! how many were sold ? dont know, but it did get a good review here in the UK.

I used to repair/restore synths - one of the last ones I resurrected was an old E&MM 49 note, totally curtis based (3340/3310 etc..) all rust/dents, no fascia!, built a replica Mini wood chassis, encased it in black Walnut veneer, beeswaxed, revamped the wiring/components, fitted a DSI pitch/mod box, drilled an alloy front panel, worked out the panel graphics in adobe Illustrator (used a commercial printer at printing stage) Mini replica knobs, custom joystick assembly far left!
and hey1... turned out pretty good!
If Moog made something along these lines, would you buy it? ( coud'nt figure out how to insert the image of the synth, but Ill put it on myspace ) http://www.myspace.com/596234900/music

[Mr Shave]

Hmmm...
Dont know why Moog never re-issued the original minimoog ? everybody else has done it! unfortunately they failed for one reason or another (identity crisis?) I considered buying one of the "Welsh" ones in the 90's they were awarded a grant from the welsh office to go towards production, last I heard they took your money upfront and 3 - 4 months later - you got a Minimoog! a wee bit long to wait (obviously not rolling off the production line! how many were sold ? dont know, but it did get a good review here in the UK.

I used to repair/restore synths - one of the last ones I resurrected was an old E&MM 49 note, totally curtis based (3340/3310 etc..) all rust/dents, no fascia!, built a replica Mini wood chassis, encased it in black Walnut veneer, beeswaxed, revamped the wiring/components, fitted a DSI pitch/mod box, drilled an alloy front panel, worked out the panel graphics in adobe Illustrator (used a commercial printer at printing stage) Mini replica knobs, custom joystick assembly far left!
and hey1... turned out pretty good!
If Moog made something along these lines, would you buy it? ( coud'nt figure out how to insert the image of the synth, but Ill put it on myspace ) http://www.myspace.com/596234900/music

This post looks familiar... deja vu?

[Kenneth]

Reissuing the Minimoog would not be commercially practical due to the existence of the Voyager. yes, they are different instruments, but not different enough I think for Moog to produce them simultaneously. Perhaps if they discontinued the Voyager, but I don't see that happening. Besides, I'm sure a Minimoog reissue would cost more than $1000, which is the one bit of information we do have on the new Moog synth.

[moogsaurus]

Well I think the Voyagers still a relevant instrument - but they've ran out of incarnations (maybe one covered in feathers?) Emu did the same with their Proteus 2000 line - to great effect, but all good things come to an end!
As a small company you have to hit the market right! logically, if you look at the original Moog company, they went for a total pro market at "buy a house prices' to the more consumer musician end, pitting their wares against the competition, things have changed (in Moogs favour) the large japanese companies dont make analogue (maybe Gakken and others-but not on Moogs scale, so they maybe have a monopoly just now on the market place.
There's a XL Voyager for sale in Glasgow for nearly 4000 quid ($7000) stupid overblown price! but Moog made it (to use up the previously constructed Voyager add- ons?) and I guess people will buy it!
Thing is every company who has resurrected a keyboard clone of the Mini has failed, no past pedigree - but Moog does have that quality, they got balls! I remember for the Taurus - they did some clever marketing: pay a deposit, and we'll build it! so I guess they could'nt lose - but limited financial gain since very small numbers were produced! Use the same tactic with the original Mini, I have a gut feeling its an untapped goldmine - if they do it right!

[Voltor07]

Use the same tactic with the original Mini, I have a gut feeling its an untapped goldmine - if they do it right!

The original Mini has been overdone...you want a MINI, buy a MINI. Or an SE-1x. Or a Donimoog. Or one of the EuroMini's. There is no reason for Moog to build any more Vintage styled Minimoogs, as the MARKET IS SATURATED. What Moog REALLY needs is either a Minitaur styled keyboard (one knob per function) or a polyphonic six or eight voice synth to compete with the Prophet 08, and eventually (maybe) the So4V.

[Kevin Lightner]

Making a new Mini is not such a walk in the park.
To make them, one either needs to adopt an "everything original at any cost" philosophy or one of "we had to make compromises here and here."

If the former route is taken, there are all sorts of obstacles such as remaking the original keyboard action, locating rare parts and finding fabricators that can do the metal enclosure as originally done.
The labor for wiring, assembly and parts selection is very tall also.

If the latter route is chosen (compromises), you end up where everyone else did.
Every item that isn't just like an original Mini brings criticism and the inability to charge high enough prices to manufacture given such criticisms.
It's why one doesn't see a mass of Ferrari clones: it's too expensive and at that point, one might as well buy the real thing.

So it doesn't make financial sense to reinvent this wheel.
Either strict adherence to originality is observed and then costs a fortune (and is STILL a clone) or it's a different synth to judged on its own merits or faults.

As to Moogsaurus' project, it's very nice.
Looks great.
However, there isn't really anything there for a manufacturer to savor as a unique idea or as a clone.
It's basically a one-off using other synth's guts and a Moog-like case.

[misterpete]

Personally, I would way rather have my Electric Blue Voyager and especially XL Minimoogs than a model 'D' ~anyday ~ simply no comparison!
One vintage bit of MOOG history I WOULD like to see redone, however is a high-end Vocoder.
Not some kind of dinky toy stompbox Tone-Loc junk ~ but the real deal.
Something like the Tomita /Wendy Carlos 16 channel monster:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2010/ ... r-vocoder/
or maybe a hybrid type thing with a keyboard attached like the Roland SVC-? Laurie Anderson model or the Korg VC-10? Now, an updated new 21st century version of that I would pay up front for ~ like the Taurus project to help make that happen.

[unfiltered37]

Personally, I would way rather have my Electric Blue Voyager and especially XL Minimoogs than a model 'D' ~anyday ~ simply no comparison!
One vintage bit of MOOG history I WOULD like to see redone, however is a high-end Vocoder.

Definitely no comparison, except for the millions of comparisons made. However, a vocoder is the most unique thing they could come out with. No one has done a decent analog vocoder in forever. I would even settle for a moog vocoder plug in.

[moogsaurus]

Kevin;
Yes - of course its a one off repackaged synth, but I could'nt leave it in its original state!
Now as to compromise versus originality, compromise is the key factor in any build these days,start off with the world and scale it down to an island! The vast majority of younger musicians have never played an original Mini - never will, its not the same as a Voyager! Howevr Moog remade the Taurus alarmingly similar to the original, functionality wise - they succeeded! Just be interesting to see if they would undertake a rebuild of the most famous synth of all time! (yes, I own a 1977 Mini, would'nt dare leave the house with it!)
and they're very unique sound masters. to buy 2nd hand today...I could'nt justify the astronomical prices
I'd opt for the polysynth market (if they considered the possibility in future) when i used to repair synths - very few were custom programmed,in fact sometimes I'd reload factory data. A lot of people thrive on factory programs..lazy? dont think so, some musos need the sounds fast,with no hassle!
Now an Oberheim Matrix 1000 8 voice rack, multitimbral, adopting the Proteus 2000 4/5 realtime knobs in a 3 down matrix style, say ...cutoff, resonance, contour amount , mod and 2 ADSRs, save button, plus a software based graphic interface on your computer ( for serious programming ) would be cost effective, and might bridge the software crowd with true analogue synthesis?

[Kevin Lightner]

Now as to compromise versus originality, compromise is the key factor in any build these days,start off with the world and scale it down to an island! The vast majority of younger musicians have never played an original Mini - never will, its not the same as a Voyager! Howevr Moog remade the Taurus alarmingly similar to the original, functionality wise - they succeeded! Just be interesting to see if they would undertake a rebuild of the most famous synth of all time!

They did and called it the Voyager.

My point is that all the compromises can add up to something that's not like a Minimoog with the same tone and feel.
The Voyager and other contemporary Moog synths use "Moog" filters and oscillators, yet don't have the feel or sound of the model D.
And if Moog made a synth that have as unique a character as the model D, it wouldn't have to be packaged the same anyway.
It could stand on its own merits without countless comparisons and subjective opinions as to how well they copied the original.

I just don't see the point of copying the model D unless it was done so well that it was virtually indistinguishable.
But to get to that degree would make it very expensive and it would have few buyers.

[moogsaurus]

Then why did they rebadge it "Minimoog Voyager"? its not a Minimoog! - your'e right, the voyager stands up on its own 2 feet, any review from magazines/forums will always dig up arguments, sure i was disappointed finding the original mini's top end zing was nowhere to be found on the voyager - thats the only criticism I have with it, but i love it just the same, but as I mentioned very few people currently have access to an original Mini for comparison, so they'll never know the difference (except for us old dinosaurs, hence "moogsaurus"!) pretty sure Moog would do their homework on this one !

Moog will follow the standard analogue evolution, culminating in a polysynth, where they go after that is anyones guess? Now market saturation? Hmmm..No, dont believe it, when I worked in the Glasgow music shops in the 80s, if a product hit home, order books were full - irrespective of brand, only glitch I remember was we got a load of ESQ 1s in - they came back hard and fast,(faulty factory batch) but due to its price/features people still wamted them! Now thats what I call a strong brand!
Musos are hungry for the next hot product, some products will fail, but some succeed, and hopefully Moog will be here for years to come! ( now what about resurrecting ARP? )