connecting moogerfoogers together & running in stereo

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rustybassman
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connecting moogerfoogers together & running in stereo

Post by rustybassman » Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:24 pm

i am looking for someone to help me with a diagram of :

1. how to run 3 or 4 moogerfoogers together

2. then run them in stereo, into 2 seperate amplifiers sets of effect loops.

The reason for the above is because my bass guitar a (Carvin LB-50) is wired for stereo & i run the bass pickup into one amp & the treble into another.
Each amp is EQ'd differently.

Anyway, i did a schematic drawing of my rig so far, in PDF format.

E-mail: rustybassman@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Russ

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Post by Lengai » Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:15 pm

rustybassman,

What MFs are you using? The reason I ask is that you could use a MuRF (if you are using one) as the last effect in the chain because the MuRF has stereo outs.

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new dealy pedal, is that stereo?

Post by rustybassman » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:14 pm

I have no moogerfoogers yet.
My first will be the new Moogerfooger Delay.
Does the new delay have stereo outs like the Murf?
I want to make sure that i can achieve the stereo
image with these pedals.
Right now, pedal wise i have a :
Black Cat Bass Ocatve Fuzz & a Morley Volume/Wha pedal
thanks for the heads up on the Murf !

I just looked at the Murf manual.
What i see are right & left audio outs.
So i would run the left to my effects Loop in
and the right to my effects loop out ?
Now assuming that was correct, how would that
take care of the effects loop on the 2nd amplifiers: (in & out)
Would i most likely need some kind of additional peice of hardware
like a stereo looper or signal splitting box?
I'm note quite sure.

Russ

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Post by Lengai » Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:26 pm

Here's some info on stereo separation with the 104 (it doesn't have stereo outs):
Hello

what do you usually do for independent L/R delays? The MF104/Z has only one audio input so do you process each channel individually? If you feed it a stereo signal (or the sum of L/R) and it gets a single delay, is there a way to separate the two channels afterwards?
plug the 104 into the send return loop on a mixer, have two channels on the mixer turn up the send to your hearts content and mantain control over the individual channels, you don't have to stop at two channels!

or get two for more control over the stereo field with regards to delay.

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Post by vintageabuser » Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:40 pm

it does have stereo outs, it does not have stereo ins.

it is worth mentioning that the murf is mono when it is bypassed. so I would suggest using some kind of CV pedal on the mix control so you don't lose your other amp when the effect is off (you won't actually turn the effect off, just turn the mix down).

the murf really complicates everything by being mono when bypassed and by having the coolest stereo effects i've encountered, this makes a wet/dry (the way to do the delay and phaser) stereo setup a bad compromise.

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Post by Duke Foog » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:44 pm

So far i've only got the murf and ring mod. but i recently just got a zvex fuzz factory which is an amazing pedal. One really cool combination i just tried with these is going instrument straight to the murf, then one side of the murf going to the ring mod and the other side going to the fuzz factory. Very cool stuff. I was usually always keeping the murf last, but this way you can really mix the 2 sounds of the fuzz and the ring mod in a very clear way. so that the ear can distinguish the 2 sounds.

Another way i've been doing this is Fuzz, then ring mod, then murf. This way the crazy oscillations and feedback created by the fuzz, can be played melodically by the ring mod and the envelope of the murf. :mrgreen:

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Post by godzilla » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:09 am

vintageabuser wrote:it does have stereo outs, it does not have stereo ins.

it is worth mentioning that the murf is mono when it is bypassed. so I would suggest using some kind of CV pedal on the mix control so you don't lose your other amp when the effect is off (you won't actually turn the effect off, just turn the mix down).

the murf really complicates everything by being mono when bypassed and by having the coolest stereo effects i've encountered, this makes a wet/dry (the way to do the delay and phaser) stereo setup a bad compromise.
could you use the foot switch on the mix (instead of the expression pedal) so that it would go from instant normal signal to instant effected signal depending on wheather your foot was held down or not?

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Post by kb » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:43 pm

The problem that we are all dealing with is: mono IN -- stereo OUT. There's no stereo IN. So, in recording situations stereo is sweet. Playing live stereo requires a stereo amp or two amps.

As far as running a stereo effect into another stereo effect - I don't think it is possible to maintain separate L/R signals. You would have to have one effect for each signal. Or, use studio effects.

Since you are already using two amps why not use different effects for each signal - that'd be freaky.

As far as combining signals and then separating them again, you would need a crossover with multiple outputs.

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