Version 3.0 OS

donato · Post by **donato** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:22 am

It sure would be nice if I could get those extra preset banks without coughing up a few hundred bucks. Let us know!

thebedroom · Post by **thebedroom** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:31 am

In this day and age it just seems ridiculous to charge that type of price for memory. There is no way it costs that much for the parts and labor. The profit must be astronomical. A good example of this is the new elektron User Wave MachineDrum. Now I'm a big elektron fan and own the monomachine, but an extra $400 for 2mb of flash memory, you have got to be kidding me. They tried to say the type of flash memory that allows it to load samples into ram on startup accounts for the price but there is no way it costs more than $30 for 2mb of any flash type memory. Presets themselves should take mere kbytes to write so I assume it will not be too much memory on any possible hardware upgrade. Let's hope if we do have to pay, it is at least reasonable because I think $300 for a self install kit is ridiculous.

gd · Post by gd » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:53 am

there is no way I am going to spend that much for a memory upgrade! I will get the editor, dwnld ver 3 and use the 128 I have, tweak them for what I need.

thebedroom · Post by **thebedroom** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:42 pm

Hey I just got this email from Sweetwater:

Hi Mark,
I still have somewhat limited information about this upgrade, but here's what I do know:
The upgrade Increases presets up to over 700, includes Anniversary Ed. banks and other special banks. Better MIDI implementation for use with older MIDI equipment. Allows incoming audio control knob to be used as patch scroll wheel. It is a Hardware upgrade which costs money although I have yet to find out how much. It can be user installable if one is comfortable with doing something along the lines of installing RAM, otherwise, it needs to be sent in to our service dept for the upgrade.
I hope this help shed some more light on this. Check back with me soon as more info will be made available.
Thanks for asking!

So it seems as if we are going to have to pay for this one for sure if we want it.

MarkM · Post by **MarkM** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:12 pm

gd wrote:there is no way I am going to spend that much for a memory upgrade! I will get the editor, dwnld ver 3 and use the 128 I have, tweak them for what I need.

From my understanding you need the board to utilize V3. Hopefully I am wrong.

You know it is possible that there is more to this board than memory. Perhaps it will be utilized for other future updates.

monads · Post by **monads** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:30 pm

The machinedrum upgrade and price was ridiculous. The Voyager, well I'd go with the upgrade just to have all my presets on the machine. At least we're afforded the option of the upgrade. Moog could as well as released a newer version of the Voyager and features with nothing for us previous owners

shiftdelete · Post by **shiftdelete** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:08 pm

I find this news of a hardware upgrade to be a bit depressing, considering I just got my Electric Blue. I know it's not mandatory, but most people want all the bells and whistles. On the otherhand, it is somewhat commedable that they aren't just leaving the existing voyager users completely in the dark, and at least allowing the upgrade.

thebedroom · Post by **thebedroom** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:05 am

Here is a message from Sweetwater that they got directly from Moog Today!

Hi Mark, I have more information about the upgrade. First of all, the upgrade is to V2.6 not 3 (there is no V3). The price will be $325 plus shipping. here are the installation instructions to give you a clearer picture:

INSTALLING THE NEW V2.6 UPGRADE ON VOYAGER EDITIONS
You must perform this upgrade in a static free environment.

For Voyager Signature, Anniversary, Electric Blue or Performer Editions:
1) Open the chassis (5 screws)
2) Detach the 6 cables and 4 connectors attached to the Digital Board
3) Unscrew the 6 screws holding down the Digital Board
4) Install the new Digital Board
5) Attach the cables and connectors
6) Close up the unit with the 5 screws

For Voyager Rack Mount Edition:
1) Open chassis (7 screws)
2) Detach the 6 cables and 3 connectors attached to the Digital Board
3) Unscrew the 6 screws holding down the Digital Board
4) Install the new Digital Board
5) Attach the cables and connectors
6) Close up the unit with the 7 screws

As far as i know, Moog will include pictures with these instructions along with the board.

Thanks again.
Yuval

So the rumor is confirmed, $325.00 upgrade.

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:23 am

Sounds simple enough. $325 is too much though.

Kevin Bowden · Post by **Kevin Bowden** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:16 am

So.....what to do with a redundant $300 digital board ???

It's a lot of money just to throw in the bin, and given the reliability of these units it isn't really worth keeping as a spare.

Using it as a Z180 'development kit' is also unlikely due to the specialised nature of the design.

Couldn't Moog offer a nominal reduction on the price of the new board for the return of the old board for "recycling" ?

It would also be worth knowing what future developments of Voyager functionality now become possible with the new board (as well as the full list of OS v2.6 features) - further incentive to perform the upgrade. With a PC connection (small laptop for stage use) I already have virtually instantaneous access to 700+ patches and the fast scrolling through voices.

Can we assume that no further OS upgrades will occur for 'version 1' digital boards ?

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:04 pm

I'd keep the board for spares, just in case!

monads · Post by **monads** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:41 pm

Boeing 737-400 wrote:I'd keep the board for spares, just in case!

I'd do the same! But for those who don't want to keep it they shouldn't just toss the old one out. At worst Moog could instruct us to send it back in the same package we got the new one with (pre-paid shipping package back to Moog)? But i guess if other distributors , like Sweetwater are going to be selling them I don't know how this would work.

The upgrade aint cheap....but so are all things being Moog.

punkdisco · Post by **punkdisco** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:09 pm

Its going to be interesting to see what the UK cost is...

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:09 pm

Frightening more like!

donato · Post by **donato** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:56 pm

Well, what's the point of the software now? What does the software give you that you couldn't just do yourself (with the expanded presets)? If you haven't bought the software yet, you could just say to yourself that you're in fact SAVING $79 by getting the upgrade! Well, that may be what I tell myself anyway.